Lid Strength Index

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Skip, thanks for your analysis. Would you mind sharing a link for the lid strength index you use? And could you explain how it is different from, and advantageous to, simply looking at 700mb temps?

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Skip, thanks for your analysis. Would you mind sharing a link for the lid strength index you use? And could you explain how it is different from, and advantageous to, simply looking at 700mb temps?

I wanted to make sure I was understanding this parameter correctly, so I did some research and found some great information yesterday. I'll just post the links so you can look them up and read the material.

Archived ST post found here.

SPC's explanation of severe weather parameters here.

NWS Office in Louisville, convective parameters and indices found here.
 
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Lid Strength Index is to Lifted Index
as CINH is to CAPE
as 700 mb temps are to 500 temps

CINH is a more precise measure of the capping as CAPE is of the instability, while 700 mb and 500 mb temps seem like rather rough estimates of the capping/instability (these temps are dependent on time of year, location, and the T/Td's at the srurface).

However, I've found the LSI to be the best indicator of initiation potential and even whether or not your storms will be surface based. The LSI measures the "width" of the cap on a Skew-T. It seems storms have a much more difficult time with a fatter cap (wider inversion on the sounding), than they do with a skinnier one, even if the CINH is actually less on the sounding with a fatter cap. You've got less CINH overall, but it seems that fat cap is like a brick wall. Initial updrafts (the turkey towers that initially fail) might have an easier time modifying those temps profiles and eroding the capping if it's skinnier, priming the pump for your later supercells. It's also like how you get much more robust updrafts with short fat cape, than you do with tall skinny cape, even if the cape is actually greater on the tall skinny cape sounding.

My chase targeting lives or dies by the LSI and 3km CAPE plots. If I don't see < 1 LSI and some ~100 3km, I'm pretty sure I'm not seeing a tornado. it's the best discriminator I've found. These plots are very finicky though.

You can get storms when the LSIs are high (positive, +3 or more), but these storms are almost always elevated, usually because the boundary layer is cool, or the capping inversion is preventing your storm from getting surface based inflow.

As a general rule of thumb, greater than +3 LSI and you're not seeing a supercellular tornado. You'll need some significant forcing to see one when it's +1 to +3. A diverging trough bisecting a sharp boundary. Ideally you want to see that LSI < 1 if you want a good shot at a tornado, you want to see a large area with these values (not a tiny crack), and you want a window where these values exist for several hours. Landspouts, gustnadoes, and spinups are still possible with LSIs +5 or greater. So you'll see chasers reporting tornadoes on high plains storms and elevated supercells/MCSs (like we had Wednesday), but it's almost always the case that they're seeing one of these features.

The NAM seems to have the best handle on this parameter I've found. it's very finicky so you'll see changes even up to 24 or 12 hours before the event. The GFS appears to be sloppy, low res with this parameter and makes gauging initation timing and how large the hole in the cap is difficult. The RUC is often too bullish with its parameters and may not be a good discriminator.

The caveat is that this assumes the NAM is right. It seems many people are doubting it for 4/26's setup.

The other caveat is that this is based on my own amateur, anecdotal experience.

I browse this parameter using a frameset I created to make browsing's Earl's site easier:
http://skip.cc/chase/models/earlnamsvr.php

A previous explanation:
http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/sho...orm-initiation&p=260587&viewfull=1#post260587
 
Skip, thanks for sharing that - I've always found all the links on Earl's page overwhelming when I wanted to look for something in there. I noticed in the forecast thread you posted an image for CAP strength... I couldn't locate that one at all on Earl's site or yours. Can you show where that one is?

Thanks kindly,
Scott
 
Cumbersome it definitely is but there is a gold mine of information on his site, especially the convective and severe parameters. I think the color tables and certain plots are hard to interpret because they're different than the norm. The more I use it the easier it becomes and best of all it's free of charge.
 
You can also see Lid Strength Index as a parameter on Earl's special site called Earl's Situational Severe Awareness. I like this site because the map is oriented to the south central part of the country, is focused on severe parameters, and allows you to overlay 2 or more parameters at a time. For example, you can quickly glance at what the 500mb/850mb wind crossover look like, how the low-level 0-3km CAPE overlaps the 0-3km vorticity generation, etc. Sometimes, the graphics can be a bit "busy" on Earl's sites, but you can get stuff that are hard to find elsewhere.

Here is the link: http://www.wxcaster.com/model_aware.htm
 
I have been computing lid strength index as well as what I'm calling the "capping index" on my forecast graphics site using the 4 km NAM CONUS nest (look at the links on the bottom half of the page). I used the formula from this aged paper (http://www.nwas.org/digest/papers/1983/Vol08No2/1983v008no02-Carlson-Farrell.pdf) for the LSI, whereas the "capping index" is simply the greatest difference between the parcel path and the environment at any particular pressure level. I don't pay too much attention to it for verification, so I don't know how well it does. I don't even know if it's the same formula used on Earl Barker's site.
 
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