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Into The Storm Movie [was "Is anyone else worried that..."]

Because in Hollywood it's not about entertainment anymore. It's about return on investment. If this thing took two years to create, that's somebody's money out of circulation for that period. Something the money people don't ascribe to very willingly to anyone but the top production teams. And I didn't see Mr. Spielberg's name on this one...
 
Being a complete movie snob, Into the Storm is probably the lowest Rotten-Tomato-rated movie I've seen in theaters. But I won't pretend I wasn't excited to be seeing it, calibrated expectations and all. The found-footage approach was a good idea in theory, but there were some really weird moments that jarred me out of the flow (everyone who's in the scene was also in a shot, with a ghost filming I guess). There's an interesting formalism to found footage if you work within the limitations it imposes, and I didn't like the shortcuts the movie took in that regard. The character arcs are definitely pretty clumsy and uninteresting, with very little in the way of character payoffs at the end. But then, we're not there for characters :)

The CGI was very hit and miss to me. Some shots were really well done, and others were not any improvement over Twister. Some of the panning TIV-turret shots in particular were really excellent, though. I wish there was more care with storm structure (Take Shelter is still the only movie to properly depict a supercell). You can tell the director watched a lot of youtube videos (Joplin high school, Alabama car dealership, Dallas semi trucks, 2004 Attica KS) with lots of direct nods. Building debris in general was pretty darn cool and well done. And call me a sucker, the above the clouds moment was well executed, as dumb as it was. I loved it.

So yea it totally earns its 20% rating, but it did abate my SDS for an hour and a half :) Also, I'm definitely adding a knife to my storm chase kit next season. Essential.
 
Did anyone else notice the jump cut? I can't remember the scene it was in, but it was pretty obvious. I was like, did I just see a jump cut edit in a Hollywood movie? I don't know if it was a projector glitch or not, but it was there.
 
Has anyone else wondered why they chose August for a release date instead of May? I don't think a late Summer release helped this film any.

To coincide more with storm season you mean? My guess is they realized the movie wouldn't be able to compete with bigger summer blockbuster titles like Godzilla and X-Men, which came out during the peak of blockbuster season in May, so they saved it for a later summer release. Maybe that's just when they were able to wrap up production though.
 
I was never worried that "Into the Storm" would generate more yahoo storm chasing activity or even general interest in storm chasing. Parallels to "Twister" are not valid because there is a whole lot more general awareness of storm chasing now than there was in 1996 - from "Twister," from "Storm Chasers" on Discovery, from The Weather Channel's "Tornado Hunt," from media coverage of VORTEX2, and the overall prevalence of social media, YouTube video, etc.

I knew that "Into the Storm" would not be authentic, but still I was really looking forward to seeing it. There seemed to be a lot of cynicism among us about this movie prior to its release, but come on - storm chasing is what we love, so how could it not be a great thing to be able to see a mainstream Hollywood movie depicting chasing on the big screen, however ridiculous, campy and comic-book-like that depiction might be??? I even thought seeing the movie with my wife was some small way to share my love for chasing with her - far easier than getting her to sit through my chase vacation videos! :)

Having seen the movie, I guess I have to say it was generally as I expected - lots of silliness and not a faithful representation of chasing by any means. And the acting was somewhat flat with no compelling human angle or character development, but like Stephen Henry said above, I wasn't there for that anyway! But still fun to watch something chaser-centric for an hour and a half on a Sunday evening.

Not to "bitch about the movie" but it is fun to point out some of the silliness. Again, not that I expected it to be authentic, but it's still fun to talk about - like analyzing a sports game to death afterwards:

1. Allison seems almost surprised when a very large tornado watch comes out - it almost appears as if that's her very first inkling it is going to be a big day

2. Multiple references to the "system" expanding and increasing the threat. To me a "system" is a synoptic reference. What does it mean to be "expanding"??? If you're talking about an expansion of storm coverage, then that decreases the likelihood of a discrete supercell with a violent long-track tornado. In at least one instance, "system" seemed to be used to refer to a supercell, which I do not think is appropriate nomenclature.

3. Chase team almost seems surprised to find large hail falling on them while they are jerking around back at their hotel retrieving some equipment left behind. Are you chasing a storm or not?!? How would you be surprised to find that hail is coming down, as if it just happens to be a pocket of large hail coming out of some stratiform precipitation!

4. In numerous scenes, the characters are out running around in debris fields. Trees and cars flying everywhere, yet the characters are impervious to any of the shrapnel. Same goes for the vehicles; the "Titus" was supposed to be a tank, so fair enough - but the radar truck was following right behind, somehow also impenetrable to the flying debris.

5. The number of tornadoes in the one area (scene when the firenado formed) seemed ridiculous. There was one shot of a multiple vortex tornado that looked decent, but then to have that many independent tornados around seemed far-fetched if not impossible. All of these looked like relatively narrow, drill-bit style satellite tornadoes, yet there are vehicles flying through the air!

6. Conversation between Allison and one of the videographers: there's a wall cloud - "but no vortex"... Say what?!?

7. Allison tells one of the videographers: "there's that vorticity stretching I was telling you about" - well I guess that might be technically correct, a visibly rotating supercell is a manifestation of vorticity stretching, but still seems an odd reference to make!

8. There were TV monitors in the mobile radar truck, and I could have sworn they had the same audio playing in the background twice - a TV meteorologist talking about it shaping up to be a "dangerous afternoon." The second time I heard this, the background voice also made reference to "sunshine... all the ingredients are in place." This might have been a valid comment if heard earlier, but this was at a point when the town had already been hit by at least two tornadic supercells and there was a constant backdrop of clouds.

9. The Titus goes sailing up above the clouds - even if it went sailing up through the tornado, and into the mid-level mesocyclone, is it at all possible that a vehicle could continue up and out of the updraft to the clear skies above the anvil? And even if it could, Pete should have already died or passed out from lack of oxygen and/or cold temperatures.

10. As the "eye" of the tornado passes over them, Allison refers to winds being even stronger on the back side of the tornado. Seems like a perverse amalgamation of hurricane and tornado terminology!

11. How could a high school be used as a shelter even after its structural integrity has been compromised by an earlier tornado? And getting in the buses? Come on!

12. At least one of the wall cloud / funnel formation shots looked decent, but a missed opportunity to show some realistic and impressive supercell structure. Most of the movie took place under a featureless cloud deck.

13. The chasers seem to have gotten caught by surprise by tornado formation a couple of times while within "downtown" areas. Again, are you chasing this thing or not???

I'm sure there's more, but I'll leave some for others to point out.

Some miscellaneous observations:

- Humorous depiction of the yahoo chasers and nice to see a distinction between these guys and the "serious" chasers.

- I watched all the credits to see if any names I recognized were involved as consultants or whatnot. The only name I saw in this regard was Martin Lisius, and credit was given for his stock photography, not for consultation.

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You can see from the get go they tried to morph Reed Timmer and Sean Casey into the character Pete.

Agree completely, I had the exact same thought. And I couldn't help but wonder if they modeled Allison after Karen Kosiba - even bore a slight resemblance to her. Google her if you don't recognize the name.

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Did anyone else notice the jump cut? I can't remember the scene it was in, but it was pretty obvious. I was like, did I just see a jump cut edit in a Hollywood movie? I don't know if it was a projector glitch or not, but it was there.

Dan, I noticed that too - it was one of the scenes where the guy and girl were trapped under that old paper mill. I couldn't tell if it was a sloppy edit, or if it was meant to be that way as part of the whole found-footage thing...
 
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To coincide more with storm season you mean? My guess is they realized the movie wouldn't be able to compete with bigger summer blockbuster titles like Godzilla and X-Men, which came out during the peak of blockbuster season in May, so they saved it for a later summer release. Maybe that's just when they were able to wrap up production though.

That was my initial thought as well, but I figured if they couldn't compete in May with the annual comic/marvel offering being a movie about tornadoes, why did they think late Summer would be any better? As bad as it's doing, seems like a mistake IMO.
 
I remember when Storm Chasers was cancelled one of the reasons given was that it didn't have a lot of viewership on the East and West coasts due to a lack of interest in the subject, or just couldn't relate. I wonder if it might have played a hand in how well Into the Storm has performed at the box office as well.
 
Haha! Adding to James' list:

14. "We got a huge hook echo!" (Points to red-blob-of-nothing on radar.) I don't know why they would bother to put real radar on some screens, and then have terrible fake radar on the insert shots.

15. "I'm counting four, maybe five, hook echos!"

16. Helicopter reporter: "Yes look at that. The tornadoes have indeed merged. Wind speeds are now, hold on let me check, yes wind speeds are now 300 miles per hour."
 
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I dont know what to think of this article. Reed Pushes hard to say this movie was done right from top to bottom. Ill put the link please tell me what you think
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...haser-Fact-Checks-a-Disaster-Blockbuster.html

I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to guess that he might have been paid to promote the movie given the number of mentions on his social media pages and appearance on the red carpet. Or maybe he just thought it was really good. Who knows.
 
From the article: "The computer graphics of the up-close tornadoes in the movie appeared so realistic that I caught myself trying to figure out the date and location of the real tornado that each one might have been based on..." Come on, there is no way he can believe that. SOME of the tornados in the film might have been realistic, but many more were not...

I may post my above observations of the movie's inaccuracies to the comments section of the article.
 
I dont know what to think of this article. Reed Pushes hard to say this movie was done right from top to bottom.

Or maybe he just thought it was really good. Who knows.

Ha, you're definitely seeing Timmer wearing his marketing hat. See: "What do you think of Reed Timmer..." thread. He's either a spokesman for the movie or, and this would be my guess, he's using the movie and his reviews to be a spokesman for himself. Timmer is a marketing master. You can see how he uses comparisons in the article to build up his own chasing.

And why wouldn't he? You've got thousands of people shelling out to see dramatic, up close depictions of tornadoes. These are the same folks that might next turn to Tornado Chasers to get their next fix. There's no incentive to pan the movie when maintaining your fan base requires hyping tornado chasing and getting people excited. He could have said, "The acting is terrible, the storms are unrealistic, and it's not a good movie." Some fans might then jump to the conclusion, "Yeah, that movie sucked. You know, storm chasing is actually pretty lame. It's boring, and we've seen it already." Both the review and its fan impact are fair assessments.

Although the fans get quite adamant on this topic, Timmer is known for hyping the heck out of average or even mediocre setups that bust. Why? It's to get the fans riled up. You're not much of a storm chaser to them if you're a pessimist nit picking what's wrong with every setup. Every setup has to be the biggest outbreak ever, and every chase has the biggest tornado you've ever seen. It's what keeps those people interested. I think we're seeing a bit of that in this article here.

As for the movie itself, I just saw it and it is indeed a bad movie. You're out on a limb to argue otherwise. The acting is terrible. The characters are lifeless, dull, and forgettable. Some of the visual effects are stunning, others are jarring, or over the top cheesy. It has the feel of a made for TV movie that has a big Hollywood visual effects budget.

What about if you're a chaser though? Is the movie worse, or more enjoyable. Somebody said in their review that the movie is bad, but not so bad that it becomes entertainingly funny. I think if you're a storm chaser, the movie does indeed become so bad it's laughably entertaining. Into The Storm is to storm chasers what Sharknado is to general audiences. The movie's one shining aspect, its visual effects are dazzling in certain parts. The wedge's wind field and its interaction with the environment is stunning. Then other visuals fall flat or are so unrealistic that the illusion of movie magic is lost. The funnels are a great example. It's the same cheesy computer generated Hollywood funnel cloud we've seen in every mediocre tornado movie. The best way I can describe it is that they're like those two liter pop bottle water vortices. You know, you shake the connected two liter bottles up and it makes this little vortex inside that lasts for a few moments. The "multi vortex" scene was probably the most unrealistic in the movie. You've got a half dozen tornadoes extending out of a featureless deck of stratus, writhing like snakes, yet also completely stationary. It looked like the tornadoes were doing the hula. I think you have to be a chaser to realize how silly some of these scenes are though, as the movie is actually trying to be serious. You can point to how they've gone to great lengths to duplicate famous real world events, but the visual is skin deep and taken out of context, and then placed into this ridiculously over the top scenario. Tornadoes and hail just randomly appear out of nowhere, sped up 16x faster than normal. It's no surprise to me the fictional meteorologists are constantly surprised at what's happening around them. The armored vehicle and its owner/driver are their best imitation of Sean Casey and the TIV. Impostor Sean Casey's lines and delivery are so bad that they are comical, however. The TIV breaching into the stratosphere is their cow flying through air, jumping the shark moment. You're going to write a few pages on how realistic this movie is and "how they got it right" and glaze over that gem?

I enjoyed the movie, but from a laughably entertaining thrill ride aspect rather than as a serious disaster thriller or drama. At the end of the movie I felt as if a roller coaster lap bar should be going up, and it was indeed intense, but like a jarring roller coaster, I was a little glad it was over too.
 
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Did anyone else notice the jump cut? I can't remember the scene it was in, but it was pretty obvious. I was like, did I just see a jump cut edit in a Hollywood movie? I don't know if it was a projector glitch or not, but it was there.

Yeah, I caught it. When they're helping the old guy out of the precariously perched, tornado impacted car right? They're cutting the seat belt and then, from the same camera angle, the scene suddenly jumps forward in time. It was a jarring jump cut definitely. At first I thought it was intentional, despite that kind of editing being considered bad form, it is used in some movies. I thought perhaps they were just trying to move the scene along. However, then I didn't see any other cuts like it in the movie, so I almost think it was an editing mistake (or an error in the reel?). That's really, really bad if that's the case. It would be like somebody misspelling the title on the film's poster. "Into Teh Storm"
 
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