• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Erik Rasmussen's Denver presentation....any additional info?

Yeah, the blob does seem to be seperate, yet that said there was evidence of a small downdraft on the back side of the blob (not the center of the blob) - the spatial scale being much smaller than the typical RFD. The blob is colocated with a strong jetlet feature - with cyclonic shear on the left side and anticyclonic shear on the right side. It appears to be tied with the descent of the tornado cyclone from mid-levels. Further, as the blob reaaches the ground, it is associated with a surge in the gust front, with numerous very small vortices (not tornadoes - but might be associated with small gustnado appearance spinups) spinning up along the gust front edge, particularly on the cyclonic side of the surge. It is further hypothesized (not in the Rasmussen work) that through vortex mergers into the gust front occlusion of these small spinups that this could serve as a seed for the tornado cyclone aloft to lock in phase with. Observations of these surface vortices have been made by both the DOWs and the UMass radar operated by Bluestein's team.

While there are several cases of blobs for tornadic cases using radar data only, more work needs to be done to make sure blobs don't appear often times when no tornado occurs. Also, this may be an evolution only associated with a particular mode of tornadogenesis, and then would not have general applicability. As with most observations of 'features', it is very difficult to determine if the blob is causing a phenomena, or if the phenomena is causing the blob. At this point, too many puzzles pieces are missing to definitively say one way or the other.

I think Jeff Wear's video is quite possibly a blob phenomena - at least it looks to have the right visual characteristics. If I had the radar data handy, I'd try looking for a blob feature with this case (but I don't).

If the vortex2 field project happens - this is certainly a feature that folks will be looking at closely - and hopefully get some better sampling of to better undertand the dynamics and thermodynamics behind it. Numerical models have offered some clues - but the observations to confirm/deny what we see is as yet unavailable.

I'm not aware of Aaron's involvement in this research - but perhaps he has additional insight to share on the subject.

Glen
 
Originally posted by Glen Romine


I'm not aware of Aaron's involvement in this research - but perhaps he has additional insight to share on the subject.

Glen

During Dr. Rasmussen’s presentation Aaron, along with 4 or 5 others, were credited with participating in the project's research.

I’m curious, is the power point presentation linked above basically the same one we saw in Denver, or something new? I don’t have ppt on either of these two machines, and wondered if I should go through the trouble of finding a copy to view this. Often times the ppt presentations themselves don’t really show much without the lecture.
 
Originally posted by Kurt Silvey

I’m curious, is the power point presentation linked above basically the same one we saw in Denver, or something new? I don’t have ppt on either of these two machines, and wondered if I should go through the trouble of finding a copy to view this. Often times the ppt presentations themselves don’t really show much without the lecture.

The ppt I linked to previously is not the same presentation as we saw in Denver...
 
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