• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Enhanced Fujita Scale?

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I was not trying to make it seem that way because who knows what the windspeeds were. I was just stating that the DOW clocked those windspeeds inside those tornadoes. It just seems as though different types of windspeeds inside cause different types of damage whether their lower windspeeds or higher windspeeds.
 
I was not trying to make it seem that way because who knows what the windspeeds were. I was just stating that the DOW clocked those windspeeds inside those tornadoes. It just seems as though different types of windspeeds inside cause different types of damage whether their lower windspeeds or higher windspeeds.
Yeah, but there is a huge difference between "clocking wind speeds" at 10 m AGL (where official wind speeds are recorded...not to mention on the order of where the damage actually occurs) and 100 m AGL (rough order of magnitude as to where the DOW's lowest recording is made). Friction plays much more of a role at 10 m than at 100 m.

Keep in mind the DOW captures an instantaneous speed of whatever provides the backscatter...which isn't necessarily "wind" (in fact wind doesn't backscatter at all). In the two examples you provided, there was a lot of debris floating around, which was providing a whole lot more backscatter than say a cloud droplet. Here is a greatly exagerated example: I could go outside on a calm day and sneeze -typical speed of a sneeze is greater than 100mph but very, very short-lived based on a quick google search. If the DOW was recording near my face at the precise moment I sneezed, it would capture a 100+mph wind speed, whereas a second before or after the sneeze it would be near calm. This is why reported wind speeds are typically averages.
 
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