• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Elie, Manitoba F5 tornado windspeeds

Yeah, that Wiki was in error. I think people look at the range of the wind speeds on the scale and head straight to the top.

The extreme narrow funnel winds in this case have sparked some interest in the modeling of tornado votices community. Apparently there has been some thought that winds may reach extreme speeds (briefly) during certain phases of the tornado's evolution. I have no references handy, though.

A short paper on the damage survey of Elie is available at:

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/141718.pdf

Pat

I certainly do not want to give a plug for someone that does not already need it but I believe Reed has some wonderful video from May 4 2007 near Woods county OK of a tornado with these "extreme" vorticies, and if I am correct I believe there was/is ongoing study of not only vortex breakdown but also the so called "extreme" speeds.
As we all know, the tornado Reed filmed was not very wide but it was very very intense and of course they got some good close up video of this.
Maybe Reed can shed more light on this as well??
 
I am sure I am not the only one to also notice the insane "wacky" track this tornado took. Could this be because of the tornado rotating around the mesocyclone itself? I.E - Shane Adams Argonia, KS, tornado back in 2004? I have seen several Youtube videos of this tornado and always noted its switch in direction, but never fully realized the 2 "loops" it did in the actual damage path. It hit that mill twice in nearly the same spot and did a loop around the far SW side of Elie. On a humorous note (not that there should be any) but I have to feel like a lucky guy and probably would have bought a lottery ticket that night if I lived in that Elie loop.
 
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