• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

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My son and I were looking at the sky today up here in the chilly Northeast. Temps are in the teens but a cloud bank seems to have a classic beaver tale to it. Although this of course isn't connected to a storm that's going to produce anything more than a few flurries, it prompted the question from him that I could not answer. "What the coldest temp a tornado has been reported in?" Anybody know?
 
I have no idea if this answer is correct, but I'll throw February 22, 1975 into the mix. Six tornadoes ravaged parts of southwest Oklahoma, including five F2s. I'm not certain, but I believe the AG temps were in the mid 30s-low 40s range. Even more impressive was the fact these tornadoes were nocturnal.

It snowed the next day (if I'm not mistaken) while rescue/clean-up teams were in action.
 
There have been numerous events in recent history when a very late/very early season tornado occurs along a boundary with temps in the 30s north of the boundary and in the 50s or 60s south of the boundary. As long as the storm is feeding on the airmass south of the boundary, technically a significant part of the storm can be in very cold air while tornadoing. I can think of a handful of upper-midwest events when there were blizzard conditions and inches of snow literally hours after a tornado. The 11/11/1911 tornado outbreak is an extreme example....

"Nine tornadoes were reported in the states of Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin. An F4 tornado hit in Janesville, Wisconsin killing 9 and injuring 50. Within an hour of the tornado, survivors were working in blizzard conditions and near zero temperatures to rescue people trapped in debris." Source - Wikipedia
 
I photographed a non-supercell tornado on Lake Ontario in Oswego NY in December 1982 while there was light snow falling and temps were in the mid 20s. Scans of those old photos here. Low-contrast was due to snow, so I enhanced the contrast for these scans.



 
I, Gabe Garfield, and Justin Walker were on a tornadic supercell in NW OK on March 20th, 2006 (it was a "cold-core setup"). The temperature at our location was in the mid-40s (with an actual wind chill that must have been in the 30s), and there was snow (with 1/2 mile visibility) reported about 30 minutes after the tornado ~45 miles northwest of the supercell. In fact, we experienced what I only can call graupel falling on the backside of the storm after the storm. It felt and looked like dime-sized snowballs or low-density partially-melted hail. Below is a pic of the small wall cloud and tornado... This is looking southwestward, with the RFD clear slot visible cutting around the west (e.g. left) side of the low-level meso:

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A very brief (and likely not the best) sfc analysis I did a couple of years ago is given below... Note that the temps (T and Td) are given in celsius, and the cyan-colored T just NE of the surface low represents the location of the tornado; another tornado occurred near the location of the cyan-colored 'T' near Marshall. It's a rather complicated surface map, with several fronts and boundaries evident (best seen by looping the sfc data). The contouring of SLP makes me think another sfc trough could be analyzed N of the warm front, but oh well.
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Again, the temp and dewpoint are given in degrees Celsius! I have another analysis in degrees F at http://www.tornadocentral.com/chasing/2006/03202006/2218_mesonet_f.png if you don't want to convert C to F (though I don't like the placements of fronts and troughs much in this one).

More pics on chase log -> http://www.tornadocentral.com/chasing/2006/03202006.php
 
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WOW!!!!! That is insane! I figured that a tornado might form in the cold IF the weather to the South of the front was REALLY REALLY warm. But never did I think one could still drop once the temps got into the 20's! Figured there simply would be enough updraft because cold air is so heavy! I'm guess I'm still learning. REALLY cool info guys and thanks for these photos Greg and Jeff!!!
 
So a followup question I wonder to this is, can we have freezing rain with a tornado? Ive seen fairly intense rain and lightning with the temperature around 27 or so..

I remember last January in Wisconsin with the tornado outbreak, piles of snow in parking lots were visible as that was going on.. But of course the ground mostly was bare at the time..
 
January 7, 1992 had a "chilly" cold core tornado event in central Nebraska (including an F2)... haven't seen surface data for it but am guessing it was similar (with respect to "relatively" modest temp and dewpoint at the surface) to the March 20, 2006 one. When you've got -3C to -7C at ~700mb in a classical cold-core type of set-up, 40s dewpoints at the surface is often sufficient to result in some pretty ridiculous low-level CAPE. Add higher terrain in (northeast and eastcentral CO are a hotspot for cold core events) and the effects on low-level CAPE can be even more surprising.
 
On 11/24/05, a pair of mini supercell tornadoes occurred on coastal Maine
near Brunswick after a few inches of snow had just fallen.

http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~ShowEvent~577846
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~ShowEvent~577847

Snow ended about an hour before the event as a warm front pushed
through. Tornadoes occurred shortly after 18z w/ sfc temps in the low 40s.
Not that cold, but it was the 850 and 500 that struck me as unusual. Rather
low heights w/ basically a piece of the polar vortex moving into the area!

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/obswx/maps/500_051124_12.gif
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/obswx/maps/500_051125_00.gif
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/obswx/maps/850_051124_12.gif
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/obswx/maps/850_051125_00.gif
 
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