CHASERS & LAW ENFORCEMENT: A Good Story

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Saturday we encountered a road block north of Dumas, and had dealings with local sherriffs. We pulled over to the shoulder and drove along the line of stopped traffic, alongside the Sherriff's truck, and asked permission to get through...which was not-so-pleasantly denied. This guy was obviously freaked out and wired, because Chad spoke softly and used the word "Sir" for every reference....but the guy still snapped. Eventually that Sherriff moved on, and another drove up beside us. There was a second tornadic storm moving up towards us from the south, which was going to eventually overtake the roadblock. We kept explaining this to the guy and he finally said, almost in depseration: "What should I do?" We told him he should let the drivers go so they could turn around and go to their homes/in town for shelter. He said he couldn't do it because his job would be on the line...he had orders....we understood, but he did allow us to pass through so we could hit the next crossover and go back south. He laughed as we pulled away and said "It's my ass for letting you guys go if I'm found out.." we thanked him, drove ahead to the next crossover, and did what we said we would...turned around and went back to Dumas.

Just a few miles south of town, we observed a tornado.

This guy was overly-polite and actually talked with us about his situation, and what he was having to deal with. We would offer suggestions for him to help try to make the situation easier, and he would either listen or tell us it wasn't possible.....but either way, chasers and law enforcement had a detailed interaction, working together, being patient and understanding of each other's situations...and it worked. He even went so far as to say, more than once, "Guys, I don't mean to be an asshole, I understand you're wetaher chasers and you know what you're doing, but I have to do my job." I didn't think the conversation would go well when he first approached us, so I turned my vidcam on and recorded the entire thing....which ended up being a great example of how law enforcement and chasers can interact in a positive way, even under stressful situations.

Oh, and on a lighter note, later that night we stopped at the Flying J in Sayre to eat. Mickey went to the bathroom, and while he was gone, just to be an ass, I had the lady at the front desk page him on the intercom system: "Mickey Ptak, Mickey Ptak....your party is ready to leave.....Mickey Ptak, Mickey Ptak, your party is ready to leave."

Of course I was laughing hysterically, and so was Mickey when he came walking out of the bathroom not two seconds later. Chad had gone out to the car, but as we walked up to it, he was laughing so hard he was crying....he'd heard it outside in the parking lot as well.
 
Last year -- May 4th -- we were coming into San Angelo at dark just west of which a tornadic storm had eluded us that day. Wasn't speeding (or running a radar detector) and was surprised to see the cop on the other side of the divided road obviously fire up and set his sights on us.

It turned out he wasn't the least interested in my driving, since he didn't even ask for the usual paperwork. Instead he saw the antennas, surmised we were chasers, and wanted a real-time storm update, which we were able to give him. Altogether a pleasant exchange.

This and several other times encounters with local LEOs have been positive, even when, once, I was -- uh -- going a bit too fast. The lesson is that I think so long as we drive and behave responsibly we can maintain a positive role with LEO and local citizens, and even contribute from our presence.
 
The lesson is that I think so long as we drive and behave responsibly we can maintain a positive role with LEO and local citizens, and even contribute from our presence.

I think that about sums it up better than anything...drive with due care and behave in a responsible manner and chaser-LE horror stories will remain few and far between.:D
 
Yeah, back in 2005 back at the Happy / Wayside tornadoes as David Douglas and I were standing out shooting footage there was a local Sheriff we talked to that was cool. He also had his own tripod and camcorder and was shooting footage!

Perhaps the issue comes about when these roadblocks come up. I wonder who controls these and how the location / duration is determined? Seems the concept of a roadblock in tornadic situations is controversial. I remember the old discussions about Jarrell in '97 and the stopped traffic on IH35.

I wonder who decides / decided that road blocks make sense and mad it public policy?
 
Roadblocks are usually set by the Officer on the scene. In large scale events such as a tornado running through town, the local PD/SO/HP will work to what they believe the best to help other responders either on the scene or coming to the scene. At least this is the theory.

Some times, this is done at FD/EMS/EOC request, but usually it's up to the individual officer. FD Incident Command will sometime request a road block be set up, but usually, unless there is a practiced protocol to follow, FD Incident Commands are busy with SAR. EOC Commanders may also request road blocks be set, but here again, they are usually pretty busy with the immediate on scene issues to begin with.

There is no cookbook for this kind of thing. Especially in rural areas. A good sized town may have a pretty sharp EOC Commander who will monitor PD/FD Operations and assist where they can. Smaller communities, on the other hand, will be less organized and rely on County or State Law Enforcement to do this.
 
We also ran into a VERY nice law enforcement officer near Pawnee Rock, KS. I was doing 73 in a 65. He was very polite and was eager to see radar and pictures of the day. He let me go with a warning. This has to be the first time I can remember, where a law enforcement officer was very courteous and polite.
 
A couple of years ago, I was pulled over in Grant County, Ok. by the SO. Doung 72 in a 65. At the time, I was coming up from Enid where I had just finished up a production shoot and had been called out for a storm that was splitting on the Grant/Kay county line. Working from a disadvantage put me to "bend" the speed limit a tad. These two were sitting well of the road and nailed me good.

However, as they came up to get my license, they both looked in the truck, saw the radios, and had seen the equipment on the truck and the first officer said, "You can hear just about anything we say, can't you." Yes Officer, I can. "Then you knew we were pulling you over, right?" Yes Sir. (I'm thinking I'm going to not only get a ticket, but get impounded too!) "Ok then, tell me about the storm, We haven't heard anything from our dispatcher and I need to know if I have to head up that way".

We discussed the storm motion and what it appeared to be doing from our vantage point about 10 miles south of it. Had a great discussion over Storm Chasers vs Storm Spotters (I did come to Chaser's defense and enlightened the Officers) and as we were talking NWSFO OUN placed a SEV warning tone out for the right (east) storm. The Officer shouted "I knew it! I knew that was going to go!" I followed him from there until we parted ways at the Kansas State Line.
 
Just wanted to share an experience I had yesterday (Monday). I was sitting at a gas station in the middle of nowhere off I-40 and a Texas DPS Trooper pulled up. This was my first encounter with non-local law enforcement in the new car and I was a bit nervous. This trooper, however, was the most polite, friendly trooper I have ever met.

He chatted with me for about five minutes (mostly about cars and the weather), and then left. I was quite impressed with his attitude and friendliness. I was telling him that there was a storm in Lipscombe County that had moved into Oklahoma, but that I was too far away to try to catch it. He leaned out his window and looked at my tires, then said words to the effect of "Those are speed-rated tires. You could still catch it." It was funny.

Anyway, just wanted to share that positive experience I had.
 
Last May we were on a (marginally severe) cell in NW KS, after dark, watching lightning. A cop pulled up behind (we were in a field entrance, not on the highway) and put his lights on...he came running up to the window, in the torrential rain, and asked us if we were OK. We said yes, and that we were watching the storm - he then excitedly remarked how "awesome" the lightning was, and then bid us goodnight. We thanked him for his concern, and he left.
 
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