Canon EOS 20D

[Patrick Kerrin]

Another step forward on the DSLR front that will make many chasers drool. From the Digital Photography Review Website:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04081909...anon_eos20d.asp

DR Review states: "Canon has today revealed the EOS 20D, the eight megapixel successor to the EOS 10D. The new sensor is however only half the story the EOS 20D has a slightly smaller and lighter body, a brand new 9-point AF system, near instant power on time, 5 frames per second continuous shooting, support for EF-S digital lenses, true RAW+JPEG, a B&W mode and USB 2.0. In total we've counted approximately 30 noteworthy improvements on the EOS 20D. Naturally we have a detailed eleven page hands-on preview of the EOS 20D and will have sample images available in a few days time. Price on the street around US$1,500."

Extensive preview at:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos20d/

 

[Aaron Kennedy]

Yummy. Gotta scrounge up some funds for this camera. Dang house downpayment ;p

Aaron

 

[Jeff Snyder]

Also a nice, detailed review at:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...20d-part1.shtml

It looks like it provides rather significants improvements on the EOS-10D, at with the same or lower starting MSRP. Sample / Actual pictures taken with the 20D cannot be released until 8/23/04, I presume because of the non-disclosure agreement. Whatever the case, I'm hoping to have one by next chase season... Glad I waited a little on the EOS10D, since it sounds like it's a signficant advancement from the 10D (some have said it's closer to the EOS "1" line rather than the pre-existing 10D).

 

[fplowman]

i was thinking wow! now i can get a real nice price on a 10D. But now i start reading and the 20D is hard to not pass up..

 

[Aaron Kennedy]

Try here for a few sample images. Looks darn good to me. And why shouldn't they? Since the D30 Canon has pretty much been 1-up on everyone else in the industry for consumer DSLRs.

http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/eos20d/eos2...d_sample-e.html


Jeff: the time between now and when it comes out is a good period to brush up on your photoshop skills. You really need to be either fluent in photoshop, or be able to shell out the $$ for Capture 1 ( http://www.phaseone.com )raw converter to get the most out of these cameras.

Aaron

 

[Mike Peregrine]

If I have to save money for the next year, I want this camera. It looks absolutely amazing ... those samples are terrific.

 

[Jeff Wells]

Wow. I've used the Digital Rebel since it debuted last year. I will definitely sell it in favor of the Canon D20.

More previews:
Review list: http://www.photographyblog.com/comments.ph...id=3479_0_1_0_C
Lots of comments: http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/20D/
Official site: http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos20d/index.html

I'm also excited about the EF-S 17-85 f4/5.6 IS USM lens Canon announced. I considered buying the 28-135 EF version of this lens so this is a no-brainer. I don't expect the IS feature will be useful for weather photography because most of it is done from a tripod (except for those ill-advised 70 mph shots). But I'll have plenty of other opportunities to enjoy freedom that IS supposedly brings.

I plan on using the new camera with a Bogen / Manfrotto 3292 Car Window Pod with 390RC2 JR 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head with Quick Release next spring.

 

[Jeff Snyder]

I'm still not entirely convinced of the EF-S system that Canon is pushing... I mean, I don't know if I want to plunk down my dinero for a lens that won't fit other Canon models. It does appear that Canon is putting quite a bit of effort in making the EF-S lens system work, but since lenses can last a good 10-25 years, I'm not sure if the EF-S system will be around in 10-15 years. However, I'm pretty confident that the EF 'regular-mount' system, will stand the test of time since it's a more 'normal' lens system ... Of course we'll see if Canon goes EF-S with their next "1" series iteration..

 

[Glen Romine]

There is another new lens proposed beside the IS model, however, at 10-20 mm, which would give back the wide angle shot with DSLR, and then some. Street prices are expected to be around $700 - so you'll have to want it bad - and I totally agree - that is a lot of money for a short fix lens. One would tend to think the trend will be toward larger image sensors in time - but with these new lenses emerging - one can't be so sure that they aren't looking to just make sensors progressively finer grained and keep the smaller size to cut down on other problems. The introduction of the lenses I think suggests they will be keeping them viable for some time into the future - not like the patchwork 18-55 mm lens.

Glen

 

[Aaron Kennedy]

I'd rather buy the 17-40mm lens and then stitch the rare shot that needs something wider than 17mm.

Aaron

 

[Glen Romine]

I'd rather buy the 17-40mm lens and then stitch the rare shot that needs something wider than 17mm.

Aaron

Yeah, the projected cost is about the same for both, and then you get the 'L' glass with greater functionality.

Glen

 

[B Ozanne]

Looks like a great camera. Looks like it has some real improvements over the 10D, but for those of you with a 10D don't feel like you are being left in the dust.

The 10D still captures images with amazing quality. I have a 10D and the 20D doesn't offer enough of a change to justify buying a new camera. Especially considering what I use it for. My next camera investment won't by until full-frames got a lot cheaper

 

[fplowman]

Can anyone tell me.

Im confused. My background is videography.. Im somewhat new to photography.. Silly huh? anyways...

I invested in a small Sony W1 point and shoot.. It has a BIG LCD screen and other nice features. Thing is.. It just wont cut it for the caliber of photography Im looking for.

Im interested in the 20D and I am starting from scratch.. Can anyone tell me if starting new.. What lenses would you buy? I know you guys talk alot about the 17 -40mm... thats a wide angle? What others would i need?

What is the differences in the lenses you talk about EF glass or L glass? If starting new as an investment what would be the pros and cons? Can i get some educated input please?

Thanks in advance

 

[Jeff Snyder]

Fplowman,
When looking at the focal lengths for lenses, remember that the 20D has a 1.6x multiplier. This makes a 17-40 lens EFFECTIVELY (not physically of course) 17*1.6 - 40*1.6 or 27-64. This is very important to remember, especially as you get into the telephoto range.

Canon's "L" glass is their premiere line. Essentially, it uses the best glass, the best construction, the best everything. Of course, for all of this, you have to pay a relatively hefty price. However, for the best pictures possible, it's vital to have good glass. Their non-L lens line is essenttially the EF-series. Now, Canon does have an EF-S line of lenses, which are smaller and are designed to take advantage of the 1.6x multiplier.

For the money, the 20D is the best DSLR you can buy. Now, if you own Nikon lenses, which I don't think you do, I'd wait a while to see what they come out with. Nikon will undoubtedly come out with a new dSLR to compete with the 20D. However, currently, there is no better dSLR for the money.

 

[fplowman]

Thanks Jeff

Originally posted by Jeff Snyder
Fplowman,
When looking at the focal lengths for lenses, remember that the 20D has a 1.6x multiplier. This makes a 17-40 lens EFFECTIVELY (not physically of course) 17*1.6 - 40*1.6 or 27-64. This is very important to remember, especially as you get into the telephoto range.

Im stupid! lol Can you tell me what all them numbers was?? Seriously though are you saying that this 1.6x multiplier somehow digitally converts this EF-S lense into a wide and telephoto?? Dual purpose? Am I correct here?? Also I assume 17 - 40 lense is for wide angle use?? Right?

Im a layman.. Without irritating anyone can someone give me a short course here??


Fred