Billy Griffin
Is this the ETERNAL thread?
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After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.
I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.
For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.
From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.
Sincerely, Jeff D.
Another Black Eye For Chasers?
- Thread starter Evan Bookbinder
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Mickey Ptak
EF5
Yes... On top of that it's a waste of bandwidth. I figured I would just poke some fun and waste some more bandwidth also.
Mick
Paul Knightley
EF5
I suppose people don't have to read it if they don't want to!
Anyway, I'll conclude my input by saying that Helen has pretty much summed up the position in the UK - we have plenty of bad drivers over here too! It's just that some people have begun to take on board that there are some things which increase your chances of being in a crash, and tiredness is but one of them!
I didn't intend to make it seem like I was picking on purely US drivers, or chasers, but on a board such as this, that seems to be the main audience!
Anyway, I'll conclude my input by saying that Helen has pretty much summed up the position in the UK - we have plenty of bad drivers over here too! It's just that some people have begun to take on board that there are some things which increase your chances of being in a crash, and tiredness is but one of them!
I didn't intend to make it seem like I was picking on purely US drivers, or chasers, but on a board such as this, that seems to be the main audience!
John Diel
EF5
Didn't you that UK Drivers all drive on the wrong side of the road? That makes them work harder, hence the increased Driver's Fatigue. 
Sorry Mates, I just HAD to take the cheap shot!
Sorry Mates, I just HAD to take the cheap shot!
David Drummond
Member
I often drive 12-14 hour days. To add to my risk I also have multiple distractions like a laptop I can browse ST with while going down the highway as well as instant message with other chasers, and a cell phone that is constantly ringing, not to mention the two scanners and ham radio, oh and the storms too, let's not forget the storms. OH, and those god aweful amber lights that according to some are sure to endanger everyone within 6 miles of me.
When I think about it, it's amazing I haven't had an real accident in 26 years! Wonder what the odds are?
When I think about it, it's amazing I haven't had an real accident in 26 years! Wonder what the odds are?
David Schuttler
EF5
Jim Hunt
EF2
With WI being a big day, people are there by the car loads. Just on the Spotter Network, I count 35 to 40 chasers/spotters in the KARX radar area. I bet it is a busy day up there.
Stan Rose
EF5
Geez, whatta fun thread. Im just overjoyed that i got to witness one of the top convergences of the season, since ive had so few ops to chase this year. I feel special.
Dick McGowan
EF5
I "heard" that the Hill City, KS sheriff contacted legislators and are going to push a bill to outlaw storm chasing in Kansas. A chasing friend told me he saw it on the KC news.... I'm having trouble finding anything online about it.
Looks like our hobby is finished. LOL. Evidently he has read this thread...we may have to go incognito in the future.
Looks like our hobby is finished. LOL. Evidently he has read this thread...we may have to go incognito in the future.
Rob Herman
EF2
Tornadoes are about the only tourist attraction we have.
Disclaimer: This is sarcasm!!!
Disclaimer: This is sarcasm!!!
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David Drummond
Member
Population 2946. Now there is a ton of political clout.
Crime in 2004:
- Murders: 0
- Rapes: 0
- Robberies: 0
- Assaults: 0
- Burglaries: 5
- Thefts: 15
- Auto thefts: 0
Mikey Gribble
EF5
Make a law against storm chasing? That's laughable.
Van DeWald
EF2
And in no way enforcable. There would be no way to prove that you were there soley for the purpose of storm chasing.
I envision an exchange something like this...
"Who me? No, I'm not storm chasing officer, that's against the law. I just happen to be out for an evening drive out in the middle of nowhere, hundreds of miles from home for no reason. Storm chasing? No way. I hate storms. Laptop? Oh, yes, I always travel with a laptop computer in my car. You see, I don't have an in-dash GPS. Ham radios? Well, it's not against the law to have a ham radio license, is it? Thanks for your concern, see ya."
David Drummond
Member
Even IF someone were to ever get something like that anywhere close to reality, the ham radio groups, perhaps even the ARRL would lobby (and probably succeed) in getting licensed radio amatuers exempted from it because of SKYWARN.
Something like that going on in Texas right now regarding the restriction of operating wireless devices while driving a motor vehicle, and were successful at getting ham's exempt from that as well.
Or it could be like the current Texas law that restricts a display (laptop computer, DVD screen, etc) from being viewable from the drivers position. One exemption is news gathering vehicles. Which would make all of us with TV station logos on our vehicles exempt from it.
In the end, the issue would be too complicated and largely unenforcable, and no money in it for the administrating bodies....so it will never happen.
Something like that going on in Texas right now regarding the restriction of operating wireless devices while driving a motor vehicle, and were successful at getting ham's exempt from that as well.
Or it could be like the current Texas law that restricts a display (laptop computer, DVD screen, etc) from being viewable from the drivers position. One exemption is news gathering vehicles. Which would make all of us with TV station logos on our vehicles exempt from it.
In the end, the issue would be too complicated and largely unenforcable, and no money in it for the administrating bodies....so it will never happen.
David Wolfson
EF5
You never want to underestimate the ability of politically inclined lawyer-legislators to make life more miserable for people. I was going to post a possible example here of an anti-chaser statute, but don't want to give anyone who might be reading this any "good" ideas. 
