A witness to death and destruction...

It appears that most of the replies in this post are responders, those among us that see the worst of things on a regular basis. Repeatedly being exposed to the horrors of death and injury definitely has it's numbing effect but more importantly you learn how to react positively in spite of what you see. This experience, as ghastly as it may be, will make you stronger and more capable of helping next time. Making the transition from adrenalin junkie to seasoned care-giver is not an easy one and it comes at a price, you sacrifice some of your innocent niavete'. Do what you can, where you can, with what you have and the ghosts that haunt you will eventually become your friends, mine have.
 
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How do you deal with the morons thinking a tornado going through a town is "cool"? I guarantee if they had witnessed either of these two events they would not think that at all.

Most sane people will not find shattered lives and scenes of destruction to be "cool". I will say seeing destruction from a tornado or hurricane provides an amazing yet sobering site. I like seeing damage in the sense I enjoy bearing witness to the awesome power of nature but would not wish for this misery to fall on anyone.

Veteran storm chaser Chuck Doswell III was either asked or referenced the question during a presentation at a conference I attended years ago in Lincoln, NE: "Why would you want tornadoes to form given their destructive power"? His answer was similar to my response above. He enjoys the spectacular power of nature yet hopes the tornado he is viewing affects humans as little as possible. He went further to say, "It doesn't matter what I want to see. It is going to happen no matter what I want and I'm simply there to see it". Perhaps this is the attitude you should take. You have to accept you cannot prevent the situation or move on.

I'm not a drunk but did go to an AA meeting with a family member and took out a memorable statement/prayer: "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference". I cannot control the storm but can potentially control a fatal outcome by helping get a warning out with greater lead time.
 
I don't think Doswell could have stated it any more eloquently. Regardless of whether we do or do not want it to happen, severe weather will sometimes impact the populace, causing destruction of personal property, injury and even death. This will happen regardless of whether or not someone is chasing the storm; our presence neither hinders nor fosters the course that forces of nature happen to take.

However, having witnessed what happened in Yazoo City, MS a week ago, I do think a certain degree of sensitivity is in order when chasing and documenting severe weather. Rooting for a tornado like you are an athletic spectator, while it's destroying lives and property, just isn't going to paint the hobby in a positive facet.

If nothing else, while it may not the primary motive behind most storm chasing (as opposed to spotting), the work of storm chasers can help to advance the severe weather warning process, provide ground truth to warnings (e.g. live streams, footage and photos), and even advance scientific research in some limited cases. As a result, there are some definite positive externalities that this hobby has for the general public, though they may come secondary to our own self-motivated desire to witness nature's fury.
 
This is a very interesting thread, and I think shows very well the thoughts all chasers have sooner or later. I have a passion for severe weather which is both scientific and aesthetic - I enjoy seeing the beauty of a supercell, and a tornado. At the same time, I sometimes dwell on the fact I travel from the UK to the USA to witness these storms, when I know that at times, people are being directly affected.

I suppose one thing I could kind of equate the notion of appreciating the beauty of something which is also dangerous is with those who travel to somewhere like Africa to see, for example, the lion, in its natural habitat. The beauty is in the beast, not in what it can do.
 
Pardon me if I get all existential:

I was just reading a great article on Newsweek that made me think of this subject. It really is interesting if you consider the psychological and philosophical questions it raises. There is some element of the human psyche that finds romance, or at least excitement, in destruction and conflict. Little boys play war or cowboys and indians, older boys play paintball, airsoft, and video games, and young men by the thousands sign up to test themselves in combat.

I don't believe this is all because of an innate desire to kill and destroy. I think it's because we are born with a desire to prove ourselves in the face of adversity. Life is boring without adversity. Once you've joined the military, or the fire department, or started chasing, the first time you overcome the odds and come face to face with something so powerful and so horrible, you'll never feel so alive as in that moment. Every endeavor after that is just an attempt to recapture that feeling. In the aftermath, you gain a new appreciation and understanding of yourself and your world. I don't see much difference between a soldier, a firefighter, a police officer, or a storm chaser in that sense.

An inexperienced storm chaser doesn't cheer as the tornado moves through a populated area because people's lives are being destroyed. He cheers because in some sense, he's bested mother nature by finding the tornado, and avoided being swept up by it. The realization that there are consequences only comes later, with experience.

The quote at the end of the article is a perfect sentiment here. "It is well that war is so horrible, lest we grow too fond of it." -Gen. Robert E. Lee

I think it applies just as much in our case.
 
The existential view is saturated with irony and conflict. Reality dictates a variety of different responses from different people found in the same circumstances. Fair to say that we face storms because they are new dilemmas, as each has different qualities and outcomes. None that can be predicted to any great certainty; we are along for the ride. Sometimes it is the unique beauty of a the storm on the open Plains; or as close to home and destroying one's home town. The irony is, that we line up for the ride and we continue because we are curious, or competitive, or the need to report. We do put ourselves in harm's way.
But it isn't just for ourselves only.
Eyes are needed on the ground...

I often contemplate getting to a tornado as it touches down, and then begins to expand exponentially outward. To the dimensions of the Hallam NE tornado. Getting close to the dangers and then finding out I had gotten too close. You never know - if conditions change faster than time-delayed data can provide.
There is irony...the storm chases me...
 
Hi Matt, I'm Joel Ewing from Tucson, Az, ?

Hey Cuz, Matt, All,
Big stuff for a public conversation. Have you guys ever considered some Buddhist perspective. I know at least 2 of us were raised as proper Christians. No disrespect to JC. But the core of Buddhist philosophy is the question of human suffering and personal responsibility. You may find some interesting ideas there. What little I know and the more I learn the more I find reason and purpose in chasing... It's a huge subject. But you ask important questions. Not to be cheesy, but the answer is in you. The reason we chase is within each of us. If you don't have a need or a reason to chase then don't. If you are looking others for a reason to chase, then maybe you are done. Maybe you don't need to anymore. Just typing out loud here. But I think every chaser's reason, purpose, motivation, is personal. We share a similar drive and fascination. But we all chase our own storms.
 
Doren - I think you're quite right - everyone has their own reasons for chasing - and to be fair, these reasons don't need to be justified to anyone else. However, it is, I think, only natural that when one finds fascination and excitement/awe/whatever in something which can be so destructive, one does tend to, at least occasionally, ponder it all.

And there's no better place to ponder it than when in the wide open expanses of the Plains, with a supercell developing.
 
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How do you get 'it' back? I'd say that has to do with what got you into chasing to begin with. For myself it was the mystery, majesty, beauty, and irony of storms. I loved storms and weather long before I ever thought of chasing. See my poem...'Why We Chase'. I am also reminded of the lines from songwriter Joni Mitchell..'I've looked at clouds from both sides now from up and down and still somehow it's clouds illusions I recall, I really don't know clouds - at all'.

Anyway, perhaps you are burnt out and need a break. Get back to the center. Try and remember what it was like in the beginning and get centered in that. If you started only because you enjoy the adrenalin rush and newness of the endeavor it could be tough because after 30 years that original untainted 'rush' is likely gone...replaced with many memories of destruction or death. However, life is fully of irony. It may be you can never go back. Even for myself my view of storms is much more complicated and aware then when I started. It is hard for me now to truly just enjoy the simple part of a storm...a rain shower, etc.
 
There is no reason any chaser should ever feel guilty about witnessing a tornado that causes destruction. There is nothing wrong with even enjoying a tornado that happens to hurt people. I don't want it to hurt anybody and I certainly don't have anything to do with it hurting people. Before anybody jumps my ass on this do you look back at all your tornadoes that caused destruction and say "man I hate that tornado". No that's ridiculous. It is part chasing. These storms cause death and destruction some times. Most of us are helping to keep people safe, so I'm definitely not going to go on a guilt trip because a tornado I saw hurt people. I'll do whatever I can to help them, but there is absolutely no reason to feel guilty in any way, shape or form.

Dude if you don't feel like chasing then don't chase.
 
Matt, I was an Oklahoma City police officer for over 27 years, most of my career was spent investigating fatal vehicle crashes. I was also at the Bombing in 1995 and an up close witness to the F5 monster in 1999. In both those events I dealt with the aftermath including death. In spite of that the vast majority of death I've dealt with is from the thousands of vehicle crashes I investigated during my career.

Next of kin notifications were the worst part of my job. Dealing with the dead was something I soon got used to, but dealing with the dying and eventually the next of kin was a harder row to hoe. It didn't take long before I developed the thick "turtle shell" that most first responders naturally develop so they can do their job without letting their emotions get in the way. Sometimes it was easy, sometimes it wasn't.

Some of the crashes I investigated left a deeper impression on me than others, especially those involving children or teenagers. I won't bore you with sob stories, suffice to say some can still bring on the tears if I dwell on them too long. But here's the important thing to remember.... in spite of all this I still drive a car, mindful of the fact that even if I drive right my life could be snuffed out in an instant by some moron who thinks his time is more important than mine, or if I get careless that I could end up being that moron.

Chasing is obviously more of a choice activity than driving but I hope you see what I'm getting at. What you're experiencing is natural in my opinion and you shouldn't beat yourself up over feeling as you do.

So, to answer your questions:

Is this survivors guilt? I'm not sure if it is or not. There were times I wondered why I seemed to remain unharmed when others around me weren't so lucky. A veteran cop once told me to never feel bad about having good luck.

How do you get that rush/passion back? Let time take its course. If it's gonna happen, it'll happen. If not, then go to Plan B, whatever that is for you.

How do you deal with the morons thinking a tornado going through a town is "cool"? Ignore them. They're in the same category as folks who think it's okay to drink and drive and you aren't likely to change their minds with logic. It's okay to let them know you don't agree with them, but as a friend once told me, "don't let the bastids get under yer skin", let 'em go. It's best not to worry about that which you can't control. And that goes for the tornado too, we have no control over where it goes or what it does so don't feel guilty if one creates havoc. Stop and assist the victims and feel good that you did all you could.

What drives you to keep doing this?
This answer will vary but for most of us I'm sure it's the thrill of the hunt. Public safety, research, timely warnings, all of those things will be tossed around as reasons too, and valid they may be, but the simple fact is if the thrill and challenge isn't there, 99% of us will quit and do something else. As a veteran chaser I'm sure you already know this.

Twice in my (shorter than your) chasing career I got myself into fixes I wasn't sure I could get out of. Both times I managed to escape and both times I questioned myself as to whether I'd go back out again. Each time it took a while before I felt the rush return but, sure enough it did, and I was soon right back out there, a little wiser maybe, but still going for the gold.

Give it some time. If the old feelings are going to return, they will. You should never feel badly for experiencing genuine human emotions. Hope to see you out there sometime.
 
Matt I to have been chasing for a long time. I was on the Hugo MN storm which killed a 2 year old boy and almost killed his sister (4). She had CPR for at least 20-30 minutes. I thought for sure she was gone as well. She is alive and actually well By Gods Grace!
I cried for days..... felt guilty that I came home that night.... To watch my 2 year old son at the time playing in his sand box. I felt dirty. Why do I get to come home to Normal it was only 30 miles away?

Anyways my point is.... you are right. There are so many young chasers that seem to think that the descruction of someones life is cool..... IT IS NOT NOR WILL IT EVER BE !!!
You can ask the people who have chased with me. If I hear someone in a restuarant say "Wow this is going to be great..... I bet we see a F3 at least." I let them have it !!!!
It is those people homes, jobs, lives, families. I love weather and the Tornado but there is almost no respect anymore. It who can get closer..... Who can get the most destruction on video. I guess I am too "Old School" Help when Needed, Chase after that. Don't change...... Mabey, just mabey you will rub off on us all to remember what really matters.

Thank you Matt.
 
James, we've talked about your experience with Hugo, MN before so I was hoping you'd chime in on this thread.

As for the people excited to see an EF3... if something gets a damage rating of EF3 that means it's not just playing out in a field, it's most likely hitting houses, businesses, etc. where the structural damage can be assessed. I've always said I'll take any tornado - but please just let it be harmlessly drifting through a field. I feel a lot better about chasing when I append to my hope for severe weather a clause that people are minimally affected by it. I don't have a rating punchcard where my ultimate goal is to see an EF5, because people will most likely die in an EF5.

Although I've seen several tornadoes and been very close to a few more, I've never seen my first "real" up-close, photographed tornado. I'm praying that this #1 is not one that affects peoples' lives.

I think the gut reaction is to call chase exhilaration "guilt" but it probably shouldn't be labeled as such. It's human to feel sorrow and sympathy for people affected by disasters, and there's a conflict between that and your excitement for storms. The weather will happen regardless of whether or not you're there, and if you're a responsible chaser, you being there only increases the chances that there will be a quicker public warning and that you can help if needed. If I'm on a storm, I will *not* drive by people that might need assistance just to continue chasing. If you set rules for yourself that make your location beneficial, then the "guilt" is substantially smaller (and it's just the right thing to do).

Granted, I haven't been on a storm that's killed people - so my feelings could drastically change. Just my $0.02.
 
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