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3/28/07 DISC: OK/KS/NE/CO/SD/TX

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This tornado outbreak is obviously still ongoing but I will go ahead and start up the discussion thread. Everything this morning appeared to come together for a major tornado outbreak which did occur. My primary question at this point is: What features held the SPC back from going HIGH risk today? I'm guessing maybe the amount of anticipated insolation was questionable, but I think most of the areas of the dryline today stayed relatively cloudy throughout the whole day. Perhaps it was the perfect blend between partial heating and clouds that kept LCLs low but enough instability to force a parcel through the CAP. I know a lot of people will question this but I honestly think all of the rain these same areas received last week helped with the moisture quality which made today's outbreak possible. What is also interesting is the mode and storm motion. I normally wouldn't expect to see almost southerly 500mb winds yielding almost due north storm motions yielding discrete supercells. However, it appears that storm seeding had little effect on todays cells, perhaps the orientation of the cells kept cells from cutting off the inflow on the cells downwind.

I will contribute some more to this thread at some later time but right now I have HW.
 
This has been an amazing storm to watch (follow/chase) from its birth off the Pacific, all the way through snow in the Rockies, to now seeing the reports of a jaw-dropping outbreak of tornadoes!

My wife and I stood on the beach at Ocean Shores, WA on Sunday, as thunderstorms began forming off the coast. Weather forecasters were mentioning this would be a "whopper" by the time it made the Midwest! We left Orting early Monday morning, stopping in Baker City, OR Monday night. Snow was falling, winds were absolutely HOWLING, and SPC had this one in their sights. After yesterday's drive through Idaho and near 100mph wind gusts, thunderstorms in Salt Lake City, to heavy snow in Wyoming, I knew this one was going to be big! This morning, we left at 3am and driving across Wyoming was no easy task. Heavy snows, gusty winds, then finally stopped here in Limon, CO tonight. What a light show off to the east - and although the whole line appeared liner when looking at it, there were overshooting tops on just about every embedded cell within the line. I told my wife that this just had to be huge, and I'm so happy to have witnessed this from birth in the Pacific through tonight. I'm happy to hear so many chasers did well, and I sincerely hope we have no reports of serious injuries or fatalities.

At last count, 58 tornadoes and still going? Simply amazing! Can't wait to see some video clips and I wish everyone the best. We'll finish the drive up tomorrow to OK City, and who knows, maybe I'll catch a view of the storms tomorrow before heading in to the hospital.

Again, congrats to all on an amazing chase day!
 
I agree with your point on the moisture. The Gulf moisture doesn't have the ground to soak up the moisture so it stays in the atmosphere, enhancing the severe thunderstorm potential. These type of outbreaks usually aren't seen this early in western NE and western KS due to the dryline already moving east of those in the early spring, and the moisture, I believe, helped keep it along the KS/CO border. The clouds may have been a factor as well, but highs were well into the 70s regardless.

It was one of those things where the perfect mix came at the right time. I still believe the SPC's MOD risk was the correct move due to uncertainty of how long the storms could stay discrete. The perfect combination of winds (especially in the mid and upper levels) today allowed a second round of supercells to tap into rich moisture enviroment in areas hit 1-2 hours earlier. I could have seen a HIGH on the 0100 outlook, but I wasn't surprised it was still a MOD, as the LLJ was a few hours away from creating the squall line that would engulf these supercells.

A side note: this system on Tuesday created 30 mph sustained winds in Phoenix with gusts of 40+. I went to a spring training game with the wind howling out to right field, and the players had more trouble than I expected. I knew how "fun" it could be Wednesday if the right ingredients came together, because this one definitely had a westerly component to the winds going through here on Tuesday.

Here's a small list of information for reports heard through the Weather Channel:

2 fatalities in Beaver Co., OK
Injuries from the overturned 18-wheeler east of Amarillo on I-40
Injuries in Holly, CO (no word on anything worse than that)
Bird City, KS and Benkelmann, NE had small damage. Bird City, KS without power.
Farms damaged in western Ness Co., KS

I have no word on McLean, TX
 
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The main concern was the backed flow at 500mb. Usually, with strong forcing, the storms quickly line up before going supercellular. However I have noticed this to be less common these years than back in 2004 and before. Perhaps it also is an instability factor and/or a shear factor that leads southerly winds at 500mb to be so deadly for a tornado outbreak.

I think one factor was the low level inflow from the east was so strong, and the instability so strong, that whatever updrafts went up were really powerful and were able to control their surrounding environment, leading the most powerful updrafts to dominate, and delaying others from going up and making things all linear.

Another possibility was that the cap was strong enough and the strongest forcing a bit far enough west so that the forcing was not quite strong enough to make everything go up at once. Today's outbreak went up in three sections, it was really perfectly timed and placed so that the supercells that went up were discrete monsters. Some at Eastern have observed that there may have been a differential heating boundary (I believe it might have been a secondary dryline) that focused low level convergence... had this feature not been there it might be likely that the main dryline (back over at KS/CO border) would've unzipped at once and formed a line. I did observe struggling storms on radar near the western OK and TX panhandles that dissipated quickly, due to storms along the secondary, more east "dryline" robbing inflow. IMO, had those storms formed, they would've gone linear quite quickly.


A lot of mesoscale things went perfectly today, and thus, the negatives cancelled out, and then some.
 
My thoughts

I posted this earlier during the event... somehow it wasn't as talked about as the dozens of supercellular tornadoes...... wonder why!?!

It's most interesting that the main storms in Texas and Kansas are developing well east of the primary dryline. Surface obs put the dryline near EHA to AMA to GNC. That's matched by the westernmost cu field west of Amarillo which is just starting to see initiaion, and on up along the KS/CO border.

So I've been wondering what the other storms are developing on. Originally the arguemment could've been made that the initial cell developed due to a very fine shortwave or such moving through... but now the additional development up in the far eastern OK panhandle has led me to think dual-dryline. The SPC has had such feature in their MD, but have had both drylines well west.
SPC mesoanalysis doesn't show much to convict of this... but sfc data shows a local moist axis maybe through HHF, SNK, and BPG (though those stations may have been anomalously high on Td all day). There is also a faint hint of sfc convergence along the same axis (winds 130 in MCS vs 160 in PPA).

It actually looks like winds are starting to back significantly east of the main dryline the panhandle in response to it starting to move east, which may be beginning to smear out this other finer feature.


It could also just be favored HCRs, and in N Ks the largest storms are developing on a band between the dryline and where I'd place this second feature (which also had one little cell pop near Edmond, KS, even under cirrus still).


I remember both dual drylines and HCRs were of extreme interest on May 3, 99 (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/soopaper/20thSLS.html for one).
I'm interested for other's thoughts on the issue. Yes the environment was more favorable east... but you still need some focus to generate isolated storms. What was that feature?

I think the timing and evolution of the somewhat uncommon southern stream feature played a key role in how this played out. WAA started healthily in the region like last week... usually the WAA is tied to a strong polar-connected system which will drive through and wipe things out. Instead it was a southern branch disturbance that came through, the air mass had no polar connection whatsoever, and so the juice advection continued at a good clip for most of a week helping set up a better airmass than we typically see over such a large geographic area (especially early season).
Then the weakening low aloft was slow to come out. Last night's 500 map at 0Z still showed the trof axis from C KS through SE LA.
Therefore you had NVA continuing into the early morning, and the LLJ also didn't have the typical thermal gradient of a rapidly developing system because the air mass was already in place... and so there wasn't any overnight convection, and very sparse cloudiness.

***EDIT: I thought the cloudiness was generally cirrus, but see that wasn't the case. Guess the LLJ was still influential at low-levels, but all the cloud layers appeared to be pretty shallow, and further west the cap held them down entirely, I guess?
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And then there was the healthy cap that advected in from the mountains and further helped keep preliminary grunge from mucking things up... and also helped limit weaker cells.
There was even still some weak backing of winds with height / CAA showing up at times this afternoon, as evidenced a bit in http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~syoung/Viciprofiler.jpg
Though by this time and based upon the heights, that's more indicative of the capping... but I saw other images throughout the day that I think may've shown this better.
I was wondering for a little while what effect this could have on things today... but it quickly became apparent any slight effect on the low-mid level mesocyclone structure was being smothered by storm-scale vorticity processes.

I was also impressed how much the air mass cooled up around 500 mb overnight. That was the real requirement for real juicy CAPE as the sfc setup was already top quality. And it came in very well.


Then it was a matter of getting the boundaries. The feature Jim and I both alluded to was really the big beast today I believe, as parts of the dryline really struggled to get going, probably in part due to the cap and the slight modification of inflow air, as well as maybe some low-level diffluence that is requirement between two convergent boundaries.
There was at least one other feature with storms up in NW KS/SW NE that appeared to be between the two "drylines" we noticed (I would consider that the primary dryline was maybe a bit further east up there and the cold front the further west feature, but obs from same time frame in NE CO don't seem to support), and the first cell of the day actually developed further east than our 2nd feature down in the Tx Panhandle.

But all you need do to see the dual boundary nature of the event is look at SPC storm reports. Heck even NCEP analyzes a features in their current stuff, so I'm glad I wasn't selectively seeing things.

SPC indicated a second dryline feature on an early md, but I don't think it was the feature we are looking at:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0361.html

Also mentioned the feature in a few other mds without totally coming up with a reason for why it was there, specifically:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0358.html


Here is satellite along with my rough guess as to focus boundaries based upon tcu and sfc data:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~syoung/vissat032807_23Z.jpg



I definitely considered the theory that it was a differential temperature boundary due to the cloudcover. There is also maybe a bit of evidence to support this, with slightly higher temperatures over the general region by late afternoon... but I really don't see evidence of any T gradient whatsoever until 21Z at the earliest.

Also considered was orography. The first major storms of the day were right invof the Caprock. I've seen enough storms take off there... and I have no doubt it contributed a lot to the initial development, and where it occurred. But as the development started to fill into other regions without any connection the cold pools of the initial storms, I think that idea fizzled.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, the fallback explanation is always that it was just a particularly healthy HCR. But why this one was favored so much? Did it just get lucky, have extra convergence early on which helped to magnify its circulation and set it off?
I also find it interesting the feature held on even well after winds shifted much more easterly through the region in response to pressure falls to the west as upper dynamics encroached.

But definitely this boundary helped things be a show today. Double the locations to focus storms. And even moreso, it was embedded in more SSE flow, meaning more favorable helicity generically, and flow was further backed east of it due to convergence/lift along both boundaries, so definitely a superb SRH enhancer.

I was really not confident in storm mode last night, as, indeed, shear vectors were quite parallel to the boundaries. But I think the slightly more SSW to NNE layout of the boundaries helped, and then the flow over the southern Plains was so much more backed than I think almost anyone imagined. I guess the PVA aloft was stronger than considered?

One last thing... does anyone else remember setups that had as much moisture through the column as there was, especially last night before drier air came in aloft associated with the upper flow. PWATs were as high as 1.2" in the southern plains... but I guess the better indicator is just the high RH values in mid and upper levels (PWAT skews towards low level moisture amount). Meanwhile freezing levels were very low (below 600 mb at all 4 18Z soundings... even beneath 700 mb up in RAP). SPC did a great job forecasting the higher hail threat and lower wind threat (which continue into today). Just goes to show it's not just a broadbrush for the wind/hail threat as it sometimes may seem like, considering how similar the numbers are typically. But have there been seen such moist overall profiles in anyone's recent memory?


Anyways, always up for discussion and to be proven wrong. There's a lot of data out there, I'm hoping something will pin this down with some certainty.
It sure would be nice if they had an actual profiler in the N Tx Panhandle/S KS... and to have a project focusing on HCR/finer features in severe setups beyond the common OFBs, as these features have been the crowning feature in tornado outbreaks like today and May 3.

Thanks for the discussion!
Shane
 
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I was following as a virtual chase case [Very instructive! Thank you, Tim - Stormtrack!], until about 00Z when I had real world stuff to do. In the hours before initiation near LBB and east of AMA I remarked on the outbreak of light precip developing northward behind me as I virtually traveled north from Shamrock. There appeared to be a nose of 700mb advection from the south on the charts at the time, and I threw out the thought of a little bit of elevated frontogenesis.

My reaction was to virtually stay ahead of the precip, which clearly was the wrong decision. The stout southerly flow rooted the storms to the drylines. Meanwhile I think the precip may have set a low-level boundary that fired the first storms. Duly noted in my Lessons Learned Log.

I might be talking through my whatever, but I'd suggest that there was possibly a small-scale elevated cyclone northeast of AMA area with warm front trailing east-southeast and elevated dryline front trailing south. This triple point moved northward through the afternoon and evening. The "other" locus of storms through CO and KS was on the surface dryline. FWIW.
 
I dont want post my reply yet, because it is gonna take a while to do but i wanted to share this image with everyone. This is of the tornado that formed on the eastern edge of Mclean and knocked out the power as we approached. The tornado is lit by a huge power flash. I cannot descibe how lucky Mclean was by not taking a direct hit by a large stovepipe in the bottom pic(the tornado had gone back up at this point, we beleive).
mcleanpowerflash.jpg


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I decided to add a pic of the stovepipe that approached the western edges of Mclean.
mcleanstovepipe.jpg
 
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A coupla comments on the chase reports

I really appreciate the chase reports from the March Madness on 3/28. Congrats to all who were able to have a successful day! Just a couple of comments on the reports (for discussion?):

1) I think it reflects badly on the chasing community when the proper tone is not used in posts that mention fatalities. "LOL" anywhere near the mention of a tornado fatality reflects badly on chasers and could be taken out of context and used against us. Naturally, this is a free country and you have the freedom to say anything you want, but everyone else is free to draw conclusions about what it says about you, too. I'm sure nothing insensitive was intended, but I'm just urging everyone to choose their words especially carefully when injuries/fatalities are involved. Just try to imagine that it was someone you cared about who was affected, and the proper tone will come naturally (unless you are some sort of sociopath).

2) Does anybody think that somebody needs to educate someone on chasing safety and proper storm placement after reading this "report"?

We watched a funnel and some massive rotation while the storm was South of the interstate, it passed almost directly overhead and then the tornado dropped again a little bit North of the interstate and we followed it for a little while.

Hopefully something is learned from that one, or we may have a couple of chasers with very short "careers".
 
I watched a number of chasers turn east on the Interstate DIRECTLY into the rotation area. It wasn't just one or two. Besides all that, you can't instruct new people when we had some well known chasers doing stuff too. I was passed by a well marked black media vehicle from OK. I was already going 75 and it passed me and LEFT me. Another well known tour operator had their van PARKED with DOORS OPEN.... DIRECTLY in the driving lane of a narrow two lane road. Not going to mention names or call anyone out because I always preach minding one's own business. I'm just saying the funky moves aren't limited to new people.
 
Kanani and I were setup about 10 miles south of McLean filiming the rapid rotation and occasional tornado until it dropped the large tube that crossed I-40 and I cant tell you how many chasers passed our spot and drove directly under the rotation. Watching the video I say at least 30-40 vehicles. I know they were trying to get up to I-40 but they drove directly under a wall cloiud that had been dropping tornados for 3 hrs and was still dopping tghem every cpuple minutes. I dont know how they didnt end up like the semis on I-40 did except to give it to pure dumb luck. On our video you can even hear us both saying how stupid they all were. Some chasers I recogniozed and others I didnt. Veteran or rookie.. they were lucky and extremely stupid. Our video even shows a few quick spin ups right in the middle of the train of cars. I even commented on the video I didnt think I had enough medicla supplies for them all.

Also we came up on a number fo chasers who stopped in the middle of the road on 2 lane hwys and even set up their tripods in the road. I know the shoulders were muddy but stopping in the road without even trying to pull over some is not only stupid but illegal. I came close to hitting a few people. It wont be lightning or tornados that kill the 1st chaser. It will be the grill of a car.

Next time I will get a picture of them and post for all to see. MOst chasers yesterday were smart and safe. They pulled off and stood on the shoulder or even in the mud on the side but ther are always a few fools.
 
This tornado outbreak is obviously still ongoing but I will go ahead and start up the discussion thread. Everything this morning appeared to come together for a major tornado outbreak which did occur. My primary question at this point is: What features held the SPC back from going HIGH risk today? I'm guessing maybe the amount of anticipated insolation was questionable, but I think most of the areas of the dryline today stayed relatively cloudy throughout the whole day. Perhaps it was the perfect blend between partial heating and clouds that kept LCLs low but enough instability to force a parcel through the CAP. I know a lot of people will question this but I honestly think all of the rain these same areas received last week helped with the moisture quality which made today's outbreak possible. What is also interesting is the mode and storm motion. I normally wouldn't expect to see almost southerly 500mb winds yielding almost due north storm motions yielding discrete supercells. However, it appears that storm seeding had little effect on todays cells, perhaps the orientation of the cells kept cells from cutting off the inflow on the cells downwind.

I will contribute some more to this thread at some later time but right now I have HW.


Kenny,

I worked the day shift, which happened to also be a scheduled backup exercise where AFWA takes over convective outlooks and watch responsibility. With a MDT or HIGH risk by 13z, we retain watch responsibility at SPC. It's very awkward trying to coordinate the 1630z outlook when we retain the probabilities and AFWA handles the categorical graphic and text discussion. We made sure the outlook went back as far west as the expected dryline location, and I added the 15% tornado probabilities. However, AFWA proposed keeping it MDT and it would have to be extraordinary circumstances for us to force a HIGH risk. Nobody was that certain yesterday.

The pre-dryline development was shown in most model forecasts, and it appeared to be related to a small wave rotating nnewd from far W TX toward the TX Panhandle. There was little surface reflection of the wave, other than a differential heating zone around the periphery of the thicker mid clouds/showers preceeding the wave. The thick clouds may have also helped temper mixing across the SE TX Panhandle and keep surface flow slightly backed compared to areas away from the clouds, which could have locally enhanced the supercell tornado threat.

We did issue PDS Tornado in TX as a response to the expected afternoon/evening environment and the likelihood of mutliple discrete supercells. I made a mistake and forgot to click the PDS option for the western KS watch - you'll note that strong tornadoes were mentioned in both with F2+ tornado probabilities of 60%. These things sometime happen when you're on your 4th watch in 2 hours.

Overall, I'm happy with how the forecast worked out. There were the usual minor problems, but nothing that should have detracted from the forecasts. Congrats to all of you that had successful chases. I did manage to see a few tornadoes with the Hedley-McLean supercell cluster, but it didn't help that I couldn't leave Norman until 4:20pm!

Rich T.
 
Kenny,

I worked the day shift, which happened to also be a scheduled backup exercise where AFWA takes over convective outlooks and watch responsibility. With a MDT or HIGH risk by 13z, we retain watch responsibility at SPC. It's very awkward trying to coordinate the 1630z outlook when we retain the probabilities and AFWA handles the categorical graphic and text discussion. We made sure the outlook went back as far west as the expected dryline location, and I added the 15% tornado probabilities. However, AFWA proposed keeping it MDT and it would have to be extraordinary circumstances for us to force a HIGH risk. Nobody was that certain yesterday.
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Rich T.

Ah okay thanks for the explanation. The MOD risk was definitely well placed, and as I mentioned it seemed that the situation (weather wise) was not certain enough to go with HIGH risk. I was keeping track of the weather scenario throughout the entire day and even by 4pm I was still uncertain as to the scope of the tornado possibilities. All in all I think the SPC and the FO's did a fantastic job last night. Only what? 3 fatalities with the 65+ tornado outbreak, even in rural areas is quite amazing because a few of these cells went right over major roadways (I-40, I-70, I-27). I happened to be stuck in a Dynamics exam from 4-5:30 so I basically called off any chance of chasing. If I were to leave Norman at 5:45PM I may have caught the McLean cell, but after dark. FO's will definitely be busy over the next few weeks examining all of the tornados. Ah, spring in the plains.
 
I wondered why the western KS watch wasn't a PDS given the tornado probabilities of the other PDS watch were the same. It happens, and most people don't really care if it's a PDS or not. Good job on the forecast, Rich.
 
FO's will definitely be busy over the next few weeks examining all of the tornados. Ah, spring in the plains.

Speaking of examining the tornadoes I am certinly looking forward to see what some of these wedges are rated. I know the Bird City wedge and satelite tornado that I witnessed were certinly not anything weak. After a large number of tornadoes over an area like this what is the normal time before ratings and damage surveys are issued?
 
Speaking of examining the tornadoes I am certinly looking forward to see what some of these wedges are rated. I know the Bird City wedge and satelite tornado that I witnessed were certinly not anything weak. After a large number of tornadoes over an area like this what is the normal time before ratings and damage surveys are issued?

I'd give this one a few days at least, and possibly up to a week for the stronger long-tracked tornadoes. This is based on what i have observed in the past. Within the next few days I'm sure many of the weaker tornadoes will be rated, but the strong to violent ones seem to take more time (understandably).

Edit: It was over a week before the Anderson-Lynn county tornado from Feb 28 received its EF-4 rating.
 
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