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04/23/10 FCST: TX/AR/OK/LA/KS/NE/MO/IL

My thoughts are that the squall line could put down some decent outflow boundaries tomorrow over central-eastern Texas, maybe S. Ok. I am somewhat uncertain of CAPE, it seems like higher temps have been very scarce this year and the main fly in the ointment could be high temps as remnant convection could be a major factor with timing/intensity. I will be at around 35000 feet in the early evening tomorrow on the way to Dallas from KY; so maybe I will get to see a different perspective of the likely outbreak of supercells than I usually do...Can't decide if I should sit to the left or right window. Could be a great photographic opportunity.
 
Gonna make my way to Lincoln after I get off this morning, keep an eye out on the parameters as I drive to get a beat on where to stage at. I'd say it'll be a decent triple point run...hopefully can get a chance to see the storms and not disappear shortly after towering...
 
ill be out there, headed across I-70 in MO, then up to Lincoln i am hopeful
 
First day off in 7 days...so greatly looking forward to getting out there.

Although just starting my chase-day fcst process, my early impression is that the "main show", if any, through at least the early-mid afternoon hours will be near the northeast periphery of the mid level low, over central/western Nebraska and possibly far northwest KS, NOT eastern NE/northeast KS. Although I was not planning on this a few days ago, I am looking at this setup more and more as at least "quasi-cold core" play if you will. Per the 00z EMC 4km WRF, eastern KS/southeast NE will surely ignite at some point, but I don't like the largely unidirectional flow across that region for TOR potential.

Thus, I agree with SPC dragging the 10% TOR probs all the way west toward North Platte. My initial thoughts are to play an area roughly bounded by a polygon with the corners at North Platte-Lexington-Alma-McCook, with low-topped storms in this region drifting north/possibly northwest. Although I am not yet fully sold on going west, I am definitely not sold on going east/southeast yet either. Typical chase day decisions I guess:)

Overall, even though I feel today will be a decent chase day, my gut feeling is that at least in the Central Plains, today will struggle to live up to yesterday's results, partially due to the stalling/occluding nature of the mid/low level features. The bar has been set pretty high for sure.

Update at 930am: I am going to start out around Kearney and monitor the northward/eastward progression of the warm front/instability axis. If nothing pans out that far west early in the afternoon, I can hopefully use I-80 to get east fast and catch later storms arcing northeast.
 
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Armchair chasing from the UK in practice for mid-May!
Anyway - I think there will be plenty of severe weather across parts of the south today, tonight and throughout tomorrow - I'm sure there would be chasing to be had, but attemping a target zone when an outbreak is possible, in the trees, is pretty tricky! Instead, I'm looking towards portions of N KS and SE NE. I like the look of the Nebraska City, NE, area, but given the activity currently moving through KS, and the chance of it perhaps messing things up in NE later, I'd head to Salina, KS, initially (for lunchtime) and then make a choice from their. The backed flow ahead of the upper occluded system coupled with steep low-mid level lapse rates means that tornadic supercells are possible in this area, assuming that the earlier debris is clear.
 
Hey someone help me out here, I am going over 12z data. Whats keeping eastern oklahoma from being looked at closer and no hype? CAPE well over 2000, Great moisture, hardly any cap, 0-3km ehi looks good, good lift, nice dryline? Maybe the risk could move west a bit? Tell me what I am misisng please?
 
Hey someone help me out here, I am going over 12z data. Whats keeping eastern oklahoma from being looked at closer and no hype? CAPE well over 2000, Great moisture, hardly any cap, 0-3km ehi looks good, good lift, nice dryline? Maybe the risk could move west a bit? Tell me what I am misisng please?

The same thing that's preventing people from talking about the potential for strong-severe tornadoes across a large part of AR today......deplorable chase terrain. Discussion usually centers around the best chase target in good chase terrain. I don't think you'll find anyone who is willing to chase the Arklatex region over regions of KS or NEB given a shot at tornadoes in both! ;)

Of course, the chase country from LZK-eastwards to MEM is actually pretty good, as long as you stay away from extreme southern AR (think El Dorado and Magnolia......bleh), with the usual caveats of that little river bordering the state, and the fact that we don't have a cross-grid road network like the TX Panhandle........but it's pretty flat farming with good distance visibility.

I'm having a little trouble forecasting for today's outbreak for my area due to what I see as unidirectional shear all the way up from 850mb......but maybe I'm just missing something. By 0Z the winds in the eastern half of AR do back slightly in response to the upper level energy kicking out (which actually brings them round to a southerly direction - yay), and in conincidence with this is a big old blob of CAPE that is slithering up into SErn AR from Nrn LA, but by this time the winds in the western half of AR have begun to veer to SWrly in response to what I'm assuming is a prefrontal trough. Maybe someone else can enlighten me as to the setup here......

Difficult forecast - displayed not only by my confusion, but moreso by the dependent and conditional wording of SPC's outlooks, and also the case of the apparating MDs that end up melting into obscurity without a WW ever being issued......LOL.

KP

EDIT: Oh well, to make me look stupid - I see that tor WW finally got issued for Srn AR and parts of TX and LA......LOL.
 
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I'm not terribly impressed with the tornado potential across Kansas today, but it does appear adequate for a few tornadoes if we can get discrete cells off the dryline at a reasonable time. I didn't hardly look at the setup farther south since I won't chase down there, but it did look noticeably better. I didn't pay much attention to the northern target either since I don't want to drive that far for a marginal setup when I have comparable tornado potential close to home. So I don't necessarily think Kansas is the best spot today, I just narrowed my forecast down to that area.
I'm just going to copy and paste from my blog...

Difficult forecast for today over a very large area. I think SPC might be a tad high with the tornado potential for today, but I haven’t looked very closely at the Arkansas/Louisiana area where the tornado threat should be maximized, so they may be on target with that portion of the outlook area. I don’t think we’ll get a whole lot of tornadoes up this way today though. I still have a lot of forecasting to do, but those are my initial feelings.
I think the area from eastern Oklahoma into Arkansas definitely looks the best, but that isn’t option for chasing today. The terrain down there is terrible and the road networks are even worse. It would be extremely difficult to keep up with a storm in certain areas down there and even if you did trees and hills obscuring your view are a major problem in that country. You’ll chase that area about one time before you write it off. I’ve never chased southern Arkansas. I’ve heard the terrain is pretty good, but the road networks aren’t that great. Nothing can compare to the square mile grids over the central plains. It’s like they designed the roads for storm chasing lol.
I’m starting to ramble so I better get back on track. A north to south dryline currently over central Kansas and Oklahoma will mix eastward through the day and be in eastern Kansas by 00Z. With good insolation across all of the warm sector SBCAPE in excess of 2000J/kg should be widespread ahead of the dryline this afternoon. Across the Kansas portion of the outlook area which is the only area I have really looked at, deep layer shear around 50kts and shear vectors somewhat normal to the boundary should create an environment favorable for discrete supercells.
My biggest concern today by far is convective evolution. The WRF high resolution simulated radar did an excellent job IMO with yesterdays convection. I usually put a lot of weight in what that’s showing and that is no different today. It shows several discrete supercells coming off the dryline across Kansas, with southern Kansas being the southern extent of the daylight storms off the dryline. That’s fine with me if it verifies because I really don’t want to drive a long ways again today.
The paramaters across Kanas aren’t that great for tornadoes, but are only marginally supportive of tornadic storms.
I think the moderate risk area SPC highlighted has the best shot for tornadoes, but I don’t want to chase down there so it’s not an option. I didn’t look at the warm front target farther north into Nebraska, so the setup there may be better than the Kansas play, but I’m not going to drive that far for a marginal tornado threat when there is something comparable close to home, so eastern Kansas will be my target today. Right now I like the area straight east of Wichita later this afternoon. I’d like to get on a storm firing near highway 400, which runs east west out of Wichita. If a storm can come off the dryline a little farther south, like in the OK/KS border area, then I’d probably drop down to that instead. Basically I think the best area for tornadoes in Kansas is probably going to be across the southern portion of the state where hodographs are slightly more favorable and 850mb winds could possibly be a tad stronger. LCL heights across Kansas should be okay for a lower end tornado threat this afternoon and if discrete storms can in fact form later this afternoon then I think there will be a decent tornado threat with the stronger storms, especially over the southern portion of the state. The hodograph for Parsons wasn’t terribly impressive, but it did have decent curvature in the lowest 2km (before going undirectional in the upper half) and 0-1km SRH around 150m2/s2, which both make me think that some of the discrete storms today have a good chance of getting it done. This looks like weaker end tornado potential, but tornado potential none the less.
Again today we will be streaming video while we’re out chasing. If you want to watch go to this page and click on the Chaser Radar page. A new map and a list of all the active chasers will pop up. Simply double click on the chasers name who you want to watch and a new window with their streaming video will pop up. I will update the forecast routinely today. Here is the link to the streaming video http://www.kwch.com/Global/category.asp?C=78802
 
It is killing me not to be out there today, but I'm gonna throw a target on the map anyway. Eastern Nebraska is going to see a lot of storms this afternoon, but I'm afraid that most of them are going to be big hailers. You don't start seeing nice hodographs until you go south and east.

I would draw my personal moderate/high risk area in a circle from Auburn, NE to Falls City, NE to Maryville, MO to Red Oak, IA. I'd probably be sitting in Auburn and have to resist going after the early storms that initiate south and west and wait for those that get into the better low-level wind environment I'm seeing in extreme SW IA/NW Missouri. I think it could be very interesting around Shenandoah, IA around 7 PM tonight.

Follow my forecast at your peril... I've still got a ton to learn about forecasting.
Good luck to all those going out.
 
There are alot of potiental spots to choose from today. One could go into Nebraska City/St. Joseph and areas where there seems to be enough model support for intiation and a reasonable good environment (though isolated may be hard to come by.)

Refocusing south, there are several potential scenarios. The most likely is intiation near Ft. Smith Arkansas, where the I would expect it to reach Huntsville or Jasper by 23z. SREF/RUC guidance suggest AR should be under the gun. Possibility of intiation back into Hugo, OK and an area between 60-120nm south. As there is no CINH present. In fact, there isn't alot of CINH present anywhere. The focus for me is further down into AR though where helicity is maximized and going to make for a long night. Gonna throw another one out there due to the very strong WAA, Louisana and particular an area from Winnfield to Tallulah.

While I think there is the most probalistic support for the AR target, It would be unfortunate to attempt such a chase.

If anyone needs nowcasting, PM me. I'd be happy to oblige.

EDIT: Per the HPCF Convective probabilties in NE Texas go upwards on 50% by 21z.
 
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Southern target(s) are somewhat complex today, partly due to terrain. Ongoing storms in AR/LA/MS are over poor terrain but one could see what happens when they emerge in flatter east-central AR. My real purpose is to discuss Texas.

Possibility of daytime redevelopment on the back edge is looking a little better as I type this early afternoon. East Texas low clouds are breaking up well ahead of the DL. This area may require patience in the wake of the morning s/w that touched off the AR/LA activity. However water vapor shows a new disturbance and jet seg coming into South Texas from Mexico, between Del Rio and Laredo. Believe there is a decent chance the DL will go in East Texas late this afternoon, with NE Texas my preferred target.

I am not able to go, but like the area around I-30 (weather not terrain). Believe morning rain left outflow boundaries, between I-20 and I-30, but they are difficult to discern attm. A temperature gradient is observed between the two Interstates, with more low clouds north of it. OFB is lifting north; might be something to watch noting Scott’s mention of SE OK. The biggest challenge will be rapidly deteriorating terrain so good luck finding one early.

Good luck and chase safe!
 
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I'm sitting in Auburn, NE. I love the moisture tongue the RUC is showing nosing into this area this afternoon/evening. The low clouds have cleared out of here, so the atmosphere should be destabilizing rapidly. It looks like there is a building cu field in NE KS. I'd expect initiation there within a couple of hours and storms to track in SE NE/NW MO. As the low level jet increases tonight and storms move towards the better directional shear near the warm front in IA, I'd expect our best chances for tornadoes to be on the NE/IA border early this evening.
 
Visible satellite loop shows Cu field rapidly deepening just west of the Topeka area, could be a sign of dynamic ascent arriving. I'm expecting initiation around the KS/NE border here in the next hour or two. Moving north out of Holton, KS towards the Falls City area where I expect to make the river crossing.

I remember someone saying on ST recently that either Hwy 75 or Hwy 159 was closed for construction... anyone know about this??
 
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