Wilson Dual Band Antenna Question

[M Potter]

I purchased a Wilson amp used it once it worked for about an hour and worked great might I say then it over heated and burnt up. That was it and i can not seem to get anyone at Wilson to help me.

 

[Bill Tabor]

I'm not really ready to go amplifier yet. I'd prefer to save the cash if I can. I have to save pennies for those longer chases. That or start chasing on a moped. I know Drummond doesn't use one and basically as I recall he said he mostly doesn't need it. Still, without testing...I'm wondering if my antenna will match or somewhat compare to that of the trucker version. Gordon, I almost bought that 5db mag mount off your site, but I wasn't able to do express shipping option and wanted it quickly in case the next chase was right away. I've got the SW 595U card and just signed with Millenicom. I should be activated soon, and we'll see what this bad boy can do.

If I'm not happy with the antenna I'll try another I suppose. Does sound like you have a decent kit set up though Gordon for $199 complete. I will keep that in my back pocket if needed.

So what of these NMO mounts? I looked the term up and it means New Motorola M(O)unt. Huh? Do I have to drill holes if I go that route?

 

[John Erwin]

So what of these NMO mounts? I looked the term up and it means New Motorola M(O)unt. Huh? Do I have to drill holes if I go that route?

Generally yes, although there's a few brackets that go on trunk lips/hatch gates etc. that can use them as well.

I prefer them since in my opinion they provide far superior performance over other temporary methods such as mag or glass mounts.

Not for everyone to be sure. Most folks are not crazy about drilling holes. I've always drilled away since I tend to keep my vehicles a bit longer than most.

For cellular use the mag mount types seem to work well enough for most folks. Just make sure the area under the magnet is kept clean and dry to prevent scratching/discoloration of the paint.

 

[Dennis Sherrod]

I'm not really ready to go amplifier yet. I'd prefer to save the cash if I can. I have to save pennies for those longer chases. That or start chasing on a moped.

Bill, I will always loan you my bicycle to use if you need it.
As I have mentioned before, I have not used an external antenna or amp yet and have got 5500 miles of chases so far this year. I am sure I will run into bad reception somewhere sooner or later, but so far, so good.
I have asked Gordon his opinion on this and I will be interested to hear what he and others say.

 

[Gordon Spencer]

I send everything two day priority mail and ship the same day order is placed so you will have your antenna quickly. I tell everyone that 5db mag mount is the best value and performance antenna I sell . And I often tell customers not to buy a bigger antenna such as a trucker as the mag mount that comes with the amplifier kit will give them everything you need and more. The NMO basically means roof mount and yes you do have to drill a hole with them.

I'm not really ready to go amplifier yet. I'd prefer to save the cash if I can. I have to save pennies for those longer chases. That or start chasing on a moped. I know Drummond doesn't use one and basically as I recall he said he mostly doesn't need it. Still, without testing...I'm wondering if my antenna will match or somewhat compare to that of the trucker version. Gordon, I almost bought that 5db mag mount off your site, but I wasn't able to do express shipping option and wanted it quickly in case the next chase was right away. I've got the SW 595U card and just signed with Millenicom. I should be activated soon, and we'll see what this bad boy can do.

If I'm not happy with the antenna I'll try another I suppose. Does sound like you have a decent kit set up though Gordon for $199 complete. I will keep that in my back pocket if needed.

So what of these NMO mounts? I looked the term up and it means New Motorola M(O)unt. Huh? Do I have to drill holes if I go that route?

 

[Donald Giuliano]

Exactly what it says . Notice they have a unit for GSM an another for CDMA. Both units do work on both protocols . But to get around FCC regulations . They make the two units. No one said they force you to buy any unit.
I am just backing up my product . If your friend had a problem with our product I would have loved to have the oppurtunity to rectify it and not have you come here and say it our product is no good. Sorry you do not like my response . I am passionate about the product we sell and also give the best service after the sale. I only wish your friend would have contacted us right away as soon as he felt the unit was not performing as advertised.That way we could have made things right so you and him would have had the oppurtunity to see the difference. Like I said chips go . and there is no explaining why.But we don't want people out there like yourself saying our product is inferior when it is not. Please if your friend still has his unit have him contact me and I will replace even if it is out of warranty at my expense . So you might have a real oppurtunity to compare the units head to head.
To Tim and David , Sorry for the waste of Bandwidth . I guess I will have to make another donation to help with the bandwidth I have wasted here.

Gordon,

I apologize if I been a bit abrasive, in my experience when a vendor responds as vigorously to criticism as you did, it is a sign that there is something wrong with their product. Clearly, however, there are a lot of people here who really like your equipment, so it's quite possible (perhaps even likely) I am in the wrong.

I'm pretty sure that my friend still has the unit, so I may have a suggestion for you, if you are interested. If my friend does still have the unit and is willing to go along with my suggestion, I will PM you the details, and you can let me know what you think. I have no skin in the game myself as I'm just an end-user, and if Cyfre really does make a better product than Wilson, I darn well want to know about it!

--Don

 

[Bill Tabor]

I send everything two day priority mail and ship the same day order is placed so you will have your antenna quickly. I tell everyone that 5db mag mount is the best value and performance antenna I sell . And I often tell customers not to buy a bigger antenna such as a trucker as the mag mount that comes with the amplifier kit will give them everything you need and more. The NMO basically means roof mount and yes you do have to drill a hole with them.

Sorry man, I didn't realize it was 2 day priority. I would have gone with that. I just didn't see it stated when I was in the shopping cart checking out. I expect to see an overnight option or 2 day option, but I was unaware that was your default.

 

[Bill Tabor]

and if Cyfre really does make a better product than Wilson, I darn well want to know about it!

--Don

That's right man...dueling amplifiers. I can here the Deliverance tune played now on guitar and banjo...da da da da da da da da da, duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh... well mental imagery here.

 

[Gordon Spencer]

No problem . I get wound quickley because I truly believe in what I sell and how it performs. And I take great pride in my customer satisfaction and continued service after the sale is over. See Cyfre spends $0 on advertising .( that is why they do not have the profile Wilson does) They reinvest all the money they would have spent on advertising into research and development continually improving the product . Wilson spends alot of money telling people they have built a better mousetrap when Cyfre takes that same money and Builds a better mousetrap . That is why they are the only units that have passed with Major cellular carriers and have no negative impact on the cellular enviorment.Have your frind get in touch with me I will gladly get his unit swapped out . And get you and him on the Cyfre Bandwagon as well once you use a properly performing unit.

Gordon,

I apologize if I been a bit abrasive, in my experience when a vendor responds as vigorously to criticism as you did, it is a sign that there is something wrong with their product. Clearly, however, there are a lot of people here who really like your equipment, so it's quite possible (perhaps even likely) I am in the wrong.

I'm pretty sure that my friend still has the unit, so I may have a suggestion for you, if you are interested. If my friend does still have the unit and is willing to go along with my suggestion, I will PM you the details, and you can let me know what you think. I have no skin in the game myself as I'm just an end-user, and if Cyfre really does make a better product than Wilson, I darn well want to know about it!

--Don

 

[Gerard Jebaily]

Gordon, I just bought and installed a brand spanking new Wilson dual band cellular antenna. I havent been completly impressed with it because my signal strength doesnt seem to change when being plugged in, vs unplugged. I'm on sprint which I beleive is the 1900 mhz. If I bought an amplifier, id most likely buy the cyfre. However it would take me 3+ hours to run the antenna wire of a new antenna, as well as eat the 30 bux i jus spent on the wilson antenna. Is there any way to get your amp to work with a wilson antenna?

 

[Gordon Spencer]

Yes we sell a FME to TNC adpter set so you can use Wilson antennas and adapters with our amplifier.I just hope you did not buy theier trucker antenna . That would explain your problem . Basically they have no Gain on 1900 mhz . You can find people all over the net *****ing about it. By the way if you want unbiased opinions on this stuf check out www.DSLREPORTS.Com. There alot of people there that will give an hinest opinion on the Cyfre amplifiers.

Gordon, I just bought and installed a brand spanking new Wilson dual band cellular antenna. I havent been completly impressed with it because my signal strength doesnt seem to change when being plugged in, vs unplugged. I'm on sprint which I beleive is the 1900 mhz. If I bought an amplifier, id most likely buy the cyfre. However it would take me 3+ hours to run the antenna wire of a new antenna, as well as eat the 30 bux i jus spent on the wilson antenna. Is there any way to get your amp to work with a wilson antenna?

 

[Gerard Jebaily]

Yes we sell a FME to TNC adpter set so you can use Wilson antennas and adapters with our amplifier.I just hope you did not buy theier trucker antenna . That would explain your problem . Basically they have no Gain on 1900 mhz . You can find people all over the net *****ing about it. By the way if you want unbiased opinions on this stuf check out www.DSLREPORTS.Com. There alot of people there that will give an hinest opinion on the Cyfre amplifiers.

No i have the standard dual band mag mount. Thats great though, Ill definately give your amp a try before wilson's based upon most of the testimonials.

 

[Chris Gullikson]

Could somebody give me some technical reasons why the Cyfre amp is better then the Wilson amp? I have a Motorola V3m which does not have an antenna adapter available from Wilson so I had to buy the Wilson amp with an inductive coupler to the phone. I find that it works quite well using a Wilson dual band antenna. I have used my amp 24x7 at home and for many hours on the road with no issues and very good reception.

Does Cyfre have an adapter for my V3M?

Thanks, Chris.

 

[Gordon Spencer]

Yes Cyfre have an adapter for the V3M .The ports on the razr's are varrying greatly lately depending on what plant they are produced in . Cyfre now makes 3 different adapters for Razr models . Wilson makes one . Induction adapters can work well , But you always will get your best results with a direct RF connection.

Cyfre amplifiers use Software driven amplifcation . Wilson and all other cellular amplifiers available use hardware driven amplification. Amplifiers using hardware driven amplification use excessive bandwidth and are bad for the cellular networks and other users on the same network . Cyfre amplifiers use zero additional bandwifth and are invisable to the tower management systems. That is why CYFRE amplifiers are the only amplifiers approved by major Cellular carriers and licensed and approved by Motorola . Because Cyfre amplifiers are software driven they draw .4 to .7 amps to run . Hardware driven amplifiers take 2 to 3 amps . Also because of the patenetd software driven amplification Cyfre amplifier run cool to the touch . Hardware driven amplifiers run very hot almost to dangerous ( the upside of this is that they good foot warmers) . I am sure lots of chasers here who have used both can tell you more .

Could somebody give me some technical reasons why the Cyfre amp is better then the Wilson amp? I have a Motorola V3m which does not have an antenna adapter available from Wilson so I had to buy the Wilson amp with an inductive coupler to the phone. I find that it works quite well using a Wilson dual band antenna. I have used my amp 24x7 at home and for many hours on the road with no issues and very good reception.

Does Cyfre have an adapter for my V3M?

Thanks, Chris.