What's a good ham radio to buy to take with me when I'm chasing?

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Can anyone recommend a good radio brand/model for me to buy? I'll be getting my ham license soon, and i need a radio to take with me. Not sure what's a good one to get that's legal for FRS and GMRS too. I've looked at some that are definitely not legal, and I really would prefer not to buy the wrong thing.
 
Bobbi, I was going to post a link to this in the chat room but my browser crashed before I could do so.

http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/ico-ic-2300h?seid=dxese1&gclid=CNLc5d6v5sUCFRCMaQodekwAKg

This would make a good entry level HAM rig for most anyone, including spotters or chasers. Icom makes good quality units and this is one of the more inexpensive, quality mobile systems currently out there. The drawback is that it is only a 2m rig, not a dual band that also supports 70cm. But dual-band radios are generally $250 or $300 and up in terms of cost. And 70cm isn't an absolute must-have. Most of the SkyWarn nets are on 2m anyway. If you are on a tight budget, the 2m capable single band radio might be the best option. But by all means, if you can afford it, go with a dual-band. It will just give you more options.

The major plus about this radio is the power (65 watts) and the ability to use a much better antenna with it than what is available on portables. With 65 watts and a good antenna, you will be able to hit repeaters from considerable distance. And for car to car usage, you will get far more range out of a system like that than with a portable putting out 5 watts through a crappy antenna.

For serious use, I'd at minimum save up for a radio on par with the one above.

As for FRS/GMRS, I wouldn't even worry about it. Those bands are marketed toward people that want to share those little walkie-talkie type systems you can buy at Wal-Mart for use at relatively close range. They are popular among hunters, hikers and for people to talk car to car with each other as they convoy down a highway together. But the radios themselves are for the most part cheap, unreliable and they have terrible range despite the claims you see of 25 mile performance. You'd be lucky to get a half mile range out of them in lots of situations. A good quality CB radio would be far more useful actually, and I don't consider those overly useful either. And pretty much all of the spotters and chasers who use radio use the amateur bands anyway, so the odds of finding someone on FRS that could prove useful are minimal anyway.

If you are wanting a radio to use for spotting and chasing, I'd just wait until I got my Technician license and then get a legit, decent quality HAM radio. In the meantime, if you are in need of some form of close range communication, such as talking with a chase buddy that you may be convoying with or what-not, then those little FRS/GMRS radios might be a decent, inexpensive option for the time being. Just don't expect much from them otherwise you'll be seriously disappointed. Also, MURS, as I mentioned in chat is a better option than FRS/GMRS. But the radios tend to be a bit more expensive. And unless you have plans for using a pair of portables in a convoy or something, those wouldn't prove very useful for what you are seeking to do with them either.

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention. I think with FRS, you are limited to 1 watt of power. And I think you may be able to use somewhere between 2-5 watts on GMRS if memory serves me. But technically, GMRS is also suppose to require a license, though very few people actually bother to get one. I haven't heard of the FCC coming down on anyone for transmitting on GMRS without a license, or for transmitting on FRS with too much power. But I personally prefer to err on the side of caution.
 
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Anything Kenwood, Icom, or Yeasu will serve you well. I have an old (2008ish) Yeasu handheld (VX170 I think) that I bought new and it's served me well. Only downside is most handhelds won't transmit on more than 10W, which on my handheld Yeasu meant I had to be within 7-10 miles of the repeater to hit it.

I have (but not yet installed) a Yeasu FT7900R. Dual band. They have a solely 2m one that's less expensive, but there are two linked repeater systems in OK alone have several 70cm repeaters (one is entirely made up of 70cm repeaters). That alone is enough incentive for dual band capability.

My 7900R came with the remote head kit as well. That means I can mount the main body of the radio out of the way and have the head and mic where I need it. If you drive a car that doesn't have a lot of room up front, that feature goes to the top of the list in terms of things to consider when buying a mobile ham radio.
 
Can anyone recommend a good radio brand/model for me to buy? I'll be getting my ham license soon, and i need a radio to take with me. Not sure what's a good one to get that's legal for FRS and GMRS too. I've looked at some that are definitely not legal, and I really would prefer not to buy the wrong thing.

I'm certainly no expert when it comes to radios, but I can offer some advice that may help you decide what type of radio to get. I would totally avoid FRS and GMRS. The transmit ranges they advertise are grossly overstated. About the only use for FRS/GMRS is ultra short range communications, e.g., a mile or two. You also wouldn't have access to the local SKYWARN nets. I don't have my ham license yet (will be taking my exam in a couple of months), but I do have some knowledge about radio communications. Probably the most popular ham band is 2 meters (144-148 mhz). 440 mhz (70 cm) is another popular band. If possible, get a dual-band transceiver with these two bands. Mobile radios are far more effective and have much greater ranges than handhelds. Don't get me wrong, handhelds are definitely useful due to their portability, and if you're in repeater range you can communicate quite well. Yaesu, Icom, and Kenwood are good brands to consider buying. If you're getting a mobile, try to get one with at least 50W output power and a good antenna. Remember, the antenna is just as important as the radio itself. Some of the ham transceivers have built-in NOAA weather radio with the alert function, which is nice to have as an integrated option.

Check out this link. It's a Kenwood TM-281A 2-meter radio, with 65W of output power. It has NOAA weather alert and only costs $142.95. Looks like a good deal.

http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-011362

Hope this will help you in making a decision.
 
Check out this link. It's a Kenwood TM-281A 2-meter radio, with 65W of output power. It has NOAA weather alert and only costs $142.95. Looks like a good deal.

http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-011362

Hope this will help you in making a decision.

I change my vote to this. That is an excellent deal. It has the same specs as the Icom I mentioned previously but is considerably cheaper. If cost is a serious consideration in your search, you probably aren't going to find a much better deal on a radio with this sort of quality/capability. If cost isn't a primary factor, I'd look for a similar radio in dual band that also covers 70cm.
 
Keep it cheap and simple for now - you don't need all the bells and whistles to do basic voice communications. Wait until you understand radio theory a little better and can make an informed decision on a dual-band or more complex radio. The TM-281a above will probably suit you just fine, and you can't argue with the price. You don't have to have a HAM license to listen, only to transmit. You will find while chasing a lot of people (myself included) do not use local repeaters, we use simplex frequencies like 146.550 and 146.520.
 
My suggestion is to get an handheld (HT) and a mag mount antenna for your first radio.

The radios you're referring to that are "GMRS" are two Anytone radios which had their Part 95 (GMRS/MURS) certification pulled due to a paperwork technicality. Those radios are still legal for ham band and Part 90 use. No amateur radio is able to be certified with FRS as the antenna can be removed and the radios can be programmed in the field. Also, the GMRS/MURS is a separate license you can pay for.

I have an Anytone OBLTR-8R radio, a Baofeng UV5R and and TYT TH9800 mobile. They have all been great radios which I got for a fraction of the price of a US brand name radio. I do have a Kenwood TM271A 2M and a Yaesu FT60R as well, but I haven't used either in a while.

If you're not comfortable with purchasing a ChiCom radio then consider the Yaesu FT60R, it is a solid 2M/70CM (144/440 MHz) HT or the Yaesu FT-8800R mobile Quad Band. Keep in mind though that with a Technician class license you are only licensed to operate on the 2M/70CM bands, so you can't operate on the other two bands 10M (29Mhz) and 6M (52Mhz). You can however listen.

Good luck with your test and have fun!

73
 
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My suggestion is to get an handheld (HT) and a mag mount antenna for your first radio.

The radios you're referring to that are "GMRS" are two Anytone radios which had their Part 95 (GMRS/MURS) certification pulled due to a paperwork technicality. Those radios are still legal for ham band and Part 90 use. No amateur radio is able to be certified with FRS as the antenna can be removed and the radios can be programmed in the field. Also, the GMRS/MURS is a separate license you can pay for.

I have an Anytone OBLTR-8R radio, a Baofeng UV5R and and TYT TH9800 mobile. They have all been great radios which I got for a fraction of the price of a US brand name radio. I do have a Kenwood TM271A 2M and a Yaesu FT60R as well, but I haven't used either in a while.

If you're not comfortable with purchasing a ChiCom radio then consider the Yaesu FT60R, it is a solid 2M/70CM (144/440 MHz) HT or the Yaesu FT-8800R mobile Quad Band. Keep in mind though that with a Technician class license you are only licensed to operate on the 2M/70CM bands, so you can't operate on the other two bands 10M (29Mhz) and 6M (52Mhz). You can however listen.

Good luck with your test and have fun!

73

That Baofeng UV5R is exactly the one I was looking at. If you've got it and it works for you, seems like it might be a good choice for me too. And it's only like $40 for a whole two handset set. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. :-)
 
Keep it cheap and simple for now - you don't need all the bells and whistles to do basic voice communications. Wait until you understand radio theory a little better and can make an informed decision on a dual-band or more complex radio. The TM-281a above will probably suit you just fine, and you can't argue with the price. You don't have to have a HAM license to listen, only to transmit. You will find while chasing a lot of people (myself included) do not use local repeaters, we use simplex frequencies like 146.550 and 146.520.

Thanks for the input, Todd. I really appreciate it. So far, you've had great things to suggest. Keep em comin'. :-)
 
I change my vote to this. That is an excellent deal. It has the same specs as the Icom I mentioned previously but is considerably cheaper. If cost is a serious consideration in your search, you probably aren't going to find a much better deal on a radio with this sort of quality/capability. If cost isn't a primary factor, I'd look for a similar radio in dual band that also covers 70cm.

Cost is a big thing right now. I have some water damage in my home that needs to get fixed up. We had to tear out drywall and all kinds of stuff... turns out this latest round of flooding isn't the first round this house we bought has seen, and the prior owners either didn't know about the damage, or didn't care, because it never got fixed. You can imagine what we are finding in the walls, ceilings, and under the floor. :-/
 
I'm certainly no expert when it comes to radios, but I can offer some advice that may help you decide what type of radio to get. I would totally avoid FRS and GMRS. The transmit ranges they advertise are grossly overstated. About the only use for FRS/GMRS is ultra short range communications, e.g., a mile or two. You also wouldn't have access to the local SKYWARN nets. I don't have my ham license yet (will be taking my exam in a couple of months), but I do have some knowledge about radio communications. Probably the most popular ham band is 2 meters (144-148 mhz). 440 mhz (70 cm) is another popular band. If possible, get a dual-band transceiver with these two bands. Mobile radios are far more effective and have much greater ranges than handhelds. Don't get me wrong, handhelds are definitely useful due to their portability, and if you're in repeater range you can communicate quite well. Yaesu, Icom, and Kenwood are good brands to consider buying. If you're getting a mobile, try to get one with at least 50W output power and a good antenna. Remember, the antenna is just as important as the radio itself. Some of the ham transceivers have built-in NOAA weather radio with the alert function, which is nice to have as an integrated option.

Check out this link. It's a Kenwood TM-281A 2-meter radio, with 65W of output power. It has NOAA weather alert and only costs $142.95. Looks like a good deal.

http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-011362

Hope this will help you in making a decision.

That's a little bit above my price range right now... due to the repairs I talked about in another post... (I have to do on my home from flooding now, and from the previous owners who didn't bother to repair the house after it flooded). I just need a basic, low cost radio for now, at least until we can finish up these repairs. Thanks for the input, I really appreciate it. :-)
 
Another thing to consider...
A lot of State Patrol / EMS / Fire Dept communications take place on frequencies slightly outside of the HAM 2 meter / 440 bands. If you are interested (and it is applicable to your area) getting a radio which has extended-band ability will allow you to listen in on their communications. I often use my radio as a police/fire scanner so I can pick up their transmissions. It's perfectly legal to listen; you just can't transmit on their frequencies.
A lot of (inexpensive) 2 meter and 440mhz radios have this ability.

Check out www.radioreference.com to see local frequency allocations for any location in the USA. Very helpful.
 
Another thing to consider...
A lot of State Patrol / EMS / Fire Dept communications take place on frequencies slightly outside of the HAM 2 meter / 440 bands. If you are interested (and it is applicable to your area) getting a radio which has extended-band ability will allow you to listen in on their communications. I often use my radio as a police/fire scanner so I can pick up their transmissions. It's perfectly legal to listen; you just can't transmit on their frequencies.
A lot of (inexpensive) 2 meter and 440mhz radios have this ability.

Check out www.radioreference.com to see local frequency allocations for any location in the USA. Very helpful.

Thanks! I'll check that out. :-)
 
That Baofeng UV5R is exactly the one I was looking at. If you've got it and it works for you, seems like it might be a good choice for me too. And it's only like $40 for a whole two handset set. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. :)
No problem, anytime.

Keep in mind though that the ChiCom radios have a bit of a learning curve when it comes to programming. Luckily though there is a website and community devoted to these radios to include open source software. Visit the site www.miklor.com and you will find the software and FAQ section.

If you're going to get the UV5R I would suggest getting a different radio antenna. The stock antennas aren't all that great. The Nagoya NA-771 is a great option and only costs about $15. You can get it on Amazon. The mag mount antenna I suggest is the Nagoya UT-308UV. I hear good things about it.

The other radio I am hearing good things about is the is the Baofeng BF-F8HP. It has the ability to transmit with 8W and all the products for the UV5R are compatible, so that makes having both a good deal. BF-F8HP will probably be my next radio. As with any HT I suggest getting a handheld speaker mic to keep the radio away from your head when transmitting. I'm not a fan of putting RF in my brain. lol

The authorized dealer for Baofeng and Anytone products is "Baofeng Tech , Anytone Tech" You will see them in the listings.

Remember when buying antennas for your radios always be sure that they are listed for your frequency range. You can't use a VHF/UHF antenna on HF frequency. If you do it could cause damage to your radio and antenna. You will learn about all of this in your Technician course.



This website www.hamwhisperer.com/p/ham-courses.html hasn't been updated in a long while, but the Technician course posted to youtube is really good! I know people that have followed the course and gotten 100% on the Technician test because if it.

If you have any other questions feel free to private message me.
 
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