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Weather gripe: What drives you mad?

Today’s forecast for the Phoenix metro area: Severe Clear

I know what you’re thinking. Sunny, 65 degrees, boo hoo, right? If you’re sitting in Minot, that sounds pretty darn good about now. So, North Dakotans are entitled not to send me any sympathy. But tomorrow’s Phoenix forecast: Clear, sunny. The day after that: Sunny, clear. Nov-Jan: Variations of Clear and Sunny, and not a lightning bolt to be had :/ Chamber of commerce weather abounds…but every day?

Back in Northern California where I’m from, the “storm door” is open, as the locals put it, allowing the Pacific winter gales to blow through every couple days. They shake the house. They topple trees. They foam up the sea and pound the beaches with fury, howling like something from a Bronte novel. I think I have storm envy.

However, it is not all stormy bliss in Northern California. The biggest weather gripe of all: Fog city. Fog fog fog in the winter. Driving can be treacherous. Day after day under a blanket of gray winter skies, people get cranky. High for the day: 42 wet degrees. Low: 35. Fog refugees take up Sierra skiing just to break the gray monotony of winter. Even my childhood dog came from the fog. She literally ran out of a fog bank on the beach. After we learned she was a stray, Sam the white Fog Dog came home with us.

There are some ways to cope with fog. Nothing beats the little clam chowders in a bread-bowl, sold on the street corner at the wharf in San Fran or the mochas from The Bread Store in downtown Sacramento. Fog looks dramatic in the vineyards too. The fog, bare black oaks and the burnt amber leaves after The Crush, that is my mental image of a Northern California winter. Still, after a while, most are longing for a glimpse of blue sky.

Meanwhile, here in Phoenix, I’m sleeveless again. Christmas is a state of mind, not of the weather.

So it makes me curious. What is the weather gripe in your town? Hurricanes, June Gloom, ice storms, dog days of summer, the Mistral…what drives you mad? What is it like and how to the locals cope?
 
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Most of the locals here in Hastings, Ne prefer moisture for the farmers and people's lawns. Moisture that arrives in a non-threatening manner. Other than that they seem to enjoy mild weather. What drives me nuts is the painful waiting period between tornado seasons!!
 
My biggest gripe was this year in May. For a week and a half straight, we did not get out of the 50's and did not see the sun. It rained non-stop it was like early November weather. And to make matters even worse was that at the same time, our college was in regionals for baseball and we had to host them. So for ten days straight I had to be up at 530 AM drive an hour and half through the rain and work on the field for 3 hours BEFORE even playing. There were three games a day so after that we would play and then wait for everyone else to finish. Then retarp the field and let me tell ya tarping a field in a lot of wind was an adventure haha. Long story short 6am - 10pm was my day of wet, mud, and baseball for a week and half straight. That is my gripe!
 
I'm kind of "flip-floppy"... If there isn't any interesting weather to be had, then I want sunshine... By interesting, I mean steady heavy rainfall, heavy snowfall of 6 or more inches, or just anything interesting (snow squalls, freezing rain, dense fog, wind, etc). What I absolutely can't stand are days that are cold and cloudy with a few flurries or drizzle.

At least up here in Michigan, there really isn't an "off-season". I would imagine that the southern states get pretty boring with nothing meteorologically-interesting occuring... Then again, if you're in OK or KS, you get your own share of interesting winter-time stuff, and you aren't that far from the mountains or other interesting geographic features.
 
Susan was "too cool" to post our area's weather gripe: four months of nuclear heat. Heat that melts solar window shields; heat that makes you hold the steering wheel with asbestos gloves; heat that makes the electric meter hum like a gas pump; heat that makes going hatless for almost any male over the age of forty a one-time only mistake; heat that turns your hot water tank into the cold water supply.... :eek:
 
Well the current gripe around here is the fact that we are once again nearing Christmas and we still don't have snow on the ground for the white Christmas. Although I'm sure most don't mind the near record warmth today, by Christmas nearly everybody wants at least a thin blanket of white on the ground.
 
Susan/David - you live in Phoenix! Now admittedly I gripe and moan about not getting any decent winter weather......but out in the Plains and eastwards it's a damn sight more common than in Phoenix! If I were to move to Phoenix I think I'd kiss my winters goodbye until I moved to the northwest or somewhere east of the Rockies......

So far here in central AR I only have one gripe - and that was how we were cheated, tricked and cajoled out of our winter storm with the last system that came through. Up until a day before the event it was looking like we were in for some early winter precip and possibly some accumulating snow - "yes!" I thought......it'll be awesome to see some wintry weather again after so long without anything I would call "measurable", let alone "decent".

What happened? A cute little low developed on the front slap-bang in the middle of AR on the day of FROPA. This kept a finger of 40+ temps clinging on and hanging on all the way from southeast AR up into......yep you've guessed it......central AR. We stayed in the balmy mid-40s until bedtime as the rain and post-frontal wind howled outside......precip which was forecast to be and SHOULD have been of the frozen variety. But nooooo.......we hung on and hung on to our above-freezing temps longer than the precip could last. El-Freaking-Dorado AR got to 32 before we did.

Consequence? A soaking of rain, a windy morning that had allowed not even one bit of aesthetically interesting ice to form, and news reports of residents in northern Oklahoma having to buy their first snowblowers.

Niiiiice. :cool:

KL
 
For me it is the misting rain that constantly changes intensity, requiring constant adjustments to the speed of the windshield wipers.

Other than that, it would be for all of these winter storms like we've had the past few years to not be 400 miles away.
 
I'm not a fan of the cloudy cool days with mist/light rain, esspecially when its enough to make it misserable and wet out but not enough to doing anything productive for the fields or to fight drought. Guess I wouldnt do so great in the NW
 
What Drives Me Mad

1.When it comes to "Storm of the Year" and the only highlight was 10mph winds and 1 inch of snow.

2.My Area Outlined in the Convective Outlook for Slight Risk with a Severe Thunderstorm Watch and nothing occurs

Hopefully others can agree with these.

-gerrit
 
Oh, that's an easy one. The serious lack of daylight, when our official daylight hours are just over 8 hours long, and we haven't even arrived at the Winter Solstice yet. Visible light's current duration is only 9 hours and 24 minutes, and even that's a misnomer because of the permanently installed stratus deck above southern Manitoba. It's enough to make anyone SAD.

Yep, my coffee buddy calls these the "wrist cuttin' days" of winter, and I couldn't agree with him more. The coldest days for us haven't even arrived yet; those come next month and into February. "As the days lengthen, cold strengthens" has long been a saying here on the prairies.

Never even got a single good lightning picture this year, either. The only reconciliation I find is through the occasional winter image, rendered by icy fingers and high dewpoints:
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John Hudson
www.skywatch7.com
 
Susan was "too cool" to post our area's weather gripe: four months of nuclear heat.

Ah yes, but that comes at the same time as the best season of all - Monsoon. Heat, torrential downpours, flash floods, sand storms, and crazy desert lightning...I'll take the whole package heat and all. One more reason that night time is chase time.

I forgot about a weather gripe. The sun in Phoenix no kidding feels 10 feet overhead. It really is crazy intense. All kinds of configurations are needed to block it while driving. The sun here has to be "managed". Even so, it does not seem as strong as the alpine sun at Lake Tahoe CA/NV. Aye carumba, that is the strongest sun I have experienced. It will fry you while you're skiing and you can get a tan at the beach while sitting in the shade.
 
my biggest gripe is non weather smart people confusing storm warnings and severe thunderstorm warnings. Storm warnings are for those along the coast, who can expect rough surf, windy conditiions.. and everone on here knows a SVR TSTORM warning criteria. that is what bothers me.
 
Seems every time there is a potential northern light show it is cloudy at my location. Very annoying. I'm not too fond of the "valley effect" here in eastern ND either. The valley is about 80 miles wide and is very efficient at trapping moisture and maintaining clouds. Troughs like to mix out to the valley rim and then sit. This makes for some annoying winter days when the temp an hour drive west is 15 degrees warmer than my location near the river. The one plus is the same scenario occurs in the summer which allows for good chasing on the convergence zone.
 
For me, I hate the winter up here. We have 8 months straight (Oct.-May) of snow and cold. There is usually a period of 7-8 months where I don't hear thunder:mad: and there basically aren't any storms. It is rare for us to get a snow storm of 6" or more (although we have had 2 so far this year). On top of that, I really don't like cold or snow. Plus, during the summer we get thunderstorms, but they are pretty pathetic. We have never had a severe thunderstorm here and "large" hail for us is pea size. I guess my weather gripe for stormless Leadville is the entire year:). At least it is a nice town, just sucks for weather.
 
I have a couple gripes. One being the doggone lake breeze during the early to mid-spring. A nice warm air regime setting up on a sunny march, april day, temps hurtling towards the 80 degree-mark, then the wind turns northeast and sends 50-something degree air all the way to Rockford! The surface southerly winds just aren't strong enough to overcome it and I'm caught outside in summer clothes without a jacket in 10 minutes reach.

The other one was especially common this summer, and that was the lack of any interesting thunderstorms in that little area between I-90W and I-88. I live right in that area, and I remember watching great storms on the radar fall turn into nearly nothing as they approached. What was worse was if they developed to the south!

And people here are griping about the warm weather, and how we may not have a white Christmas. I think there will be a little snow before the holidays, the models seem to show it. ;)
 
I can agree with Charles's comment, "It is rare for us to get a snow storm of 6" or more". In Southeast Idaho since I have lived here have received at most 4 inches of snow. That is a huge weather gripe of mine since my idea of a snow storm is 10+ inches or more. Hopefully We will get an Upper Low that closes directly over my area and just dumps. All the good storms seem to dump at the Wasatch and bring the remnant here which is very little.

I can say I was quite lucky on Getting a good number of lightning shots this year. The Monsoon just wasnt that active here.

Hoping for a Huge Snow storm and a Very Eventfull 2007 chase season.
 
I think atleast JFarrar would agree with me when I say that our number one issue in the Ohio Valley and Great lakes region is the water loading that almost ALL supercells succumb to in these reigions. The vegitation is alot denser than tor' alley and the "corn-belt" through Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, etc... also contributes to abundant moisture at the surface. This is not always the case, but can certainly ruin some great looking storms by going HP.

For this reason I look forward to 07' and chasing the alley for the chance to see an LP or Classic supercell.
 
It drives me crazy when its December 21 and we have a fairly strong upper level system tracking North-East through KS and we're too warm here in E NE to see any winter precip; system tracks similar to the traveling path of this one generally mean big snows for this area. Its a bunch of BS, if we dont at least pick up an inch or two from the backside of this system on Friday morning I may move to Oklahoma where it actually snows!!!
 
Tucson from Mid May 'till the storms start in early July.

Two months of utter misery.
No clouds.
No wind.
No change. (Well, it does get HOTTER as the days grind by.)
No 'weather' to speak of...
... just relentless, baking, overpowering heat.
For what seems an eternity, you look to the sky, hoping to see something, anything, other than pale blue heat. A cloud, please!, any sign that the sky hasn't been burned to death; that weather, maybe even rain is not a delusional false memory. All you find is that damn sun glaring down on you. Frying your eyeballs. Burning your skin. The sun withers cactus and litteraly crumbles rock. Even the rattlesnakes hide from it.

Day
after day
after day
after......ARRRRGH!!!! :eek:

Once past the worst of it, the fun 'monsoon' season starts and all is forgotten. Storms! Thunder! Lightning!! Water.

The world is alive again!

-Greg
 
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I'll unleash my Inner George Carlin: :)

1. Why do people seldom mention a tornado without pointing out that it's ON THE GROUND. Where else could it be?
2. Why do weather reporters seldom mention a downpour without pointing out that it's "heavy." You mean there's such a thing as a light downpour?
3. Why do half of the Weather-Channel reporters talk about "warm, humid air coming up from the golf"? You'd think that, being meteorologists, they'd know the difference between the gulf and a game that consists of whacking little white balls around.

--Bob
 
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