• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

USB or Firewire

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With my firewire port out of commission for a few more weeks, I noticed that I can pull video off my camera with my USB camera, though it's more difficult.

Is there any benefits from using USB to get video rather than firewire?
 
Technically, USB2 is faster than standard Firewire (400) / 1394(a) / i.Link (480mbps vs. 400mbps). On the other hand, USB2 CPU useage tends to be higher (on average) than Firewire. From a practical standpoint, however, I haven't noticed much difference. Firewire 800 (1394b) is rated at 800mbps, but the real-world benchmarks I've seen haven't been a whole lot faster than Firewire 400 / 1394a (likely due to implementation issues). Regardless, I can bet you don't have 1394b (very few PCs come with such a port, and I don't think there are any consumer camcorders that offer it), so it's not really worth mentioning.
 
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Yeah I'm talking about pulling off a tape. So firewire'd be better then?

I don't think you'll notice much difference, but Firewire may actually be a little faster (despite, technically/ideally, being rated slower). I've used USB2 and Firewire to move video from my computer to an external hard drive and didn't notice much difference (other than increased CPU overhead). Benchmarks that I've seen, however, have found that Firewire is actually faster than USB2 in many cases, and its speed advantage is most evident when transferring large files / large amounts of data, which would be the case for transferring video. So yes, I think Firewire would be a better choice with your camcorder.
 
Seems to me that most USB connections (or the software controlling the capture) will allow for compressed video capture rather than AVI (uncompressed). At least that's been my experience. Firewire connections allow for the AVI capture thus the better quality video.

As far as speed goes, since your capturing in real time from video play back, it really doesn't matter to which connection is faster. What will matter is the RPM Speed of your hard drive. Though 5400 RPM will do thisngs, it's not the best and WILL bog down. I see this quite a bit when capturing sound (voice) to my laptop on live music or singing. 7200 RPM is way better and 10,000+ is excellent.

John Diel
 
While USB2 is technically faster, so much time has been spent on getting firewire to work well, the drivers/software that allow USB2 to work have really been forgotten. It seems most software for USB has more been to attach cameras for webcam functionality. Not that great...

-John
 
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