• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

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    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Underground shelters built in to overpasses?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Drew.Gardonia
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Perhaps a compromise is in order. Have walls under the overpasses, where highway patrol might kep ladders, equipment, etc. Do not advertise said de facto "shelters" No doors at all. Still danger, but not necessarily a magnet for roadblocks.
 
Here's an interesting quote related to community shelters...

http://beta.toledoblade.com/local/2011/06/05/Details-emerge-questions-linger-2.html

"A power outage at Lake High School likely prevented injury or even death for the Chalfin family and two Lake Township firefighters, Daryl Keller and Ed Brown. Dean and Debra Chalfin and their teenage children, Jennifer Knoblock, Eric Eischen, and Danielle Chalfin, sought shelter at the high school, not far from where they live in the Wood-Lake Mobile Home Park. Firefighters did not have the correct keys, but a power outage suddenly caused a door to unlock. "
 
Have walls under the overpasses, where highway patrol might kep ladders, equipment, etc

I guess I don't understand what the walls would do if they don't make a room? You are supposed to climb ladders and get inside? The ladders will always be there, but won't be a magnet for shelters? If you don't advertise it, then how would people know? Something there doesn't make sense to me.
 
Overpasses become clogged with cars when hail starts as it is, so what happens when 50 cars stop to jump in the shelter? Who's going to close the door last?
The public needs to be educated on what to do in severe weather... but that generally goes out the window when panic sets in. People don't leave their mobile homes/cars to seek substantial shelter as it is, especially in places where tornadoes don't occur on a regular basis i.e Tuscaloosa/Springfield, MA. Unless the event is predicted and warnings are issued with enough lead time people will likely die in any large scale event. As far as highway safety, Texas has built Safety Rest Areas with large parking areas and reinforced buildings. Problem is these stops are few & far between and mostly rural.

In the recent OK event on May 24, the early warnings made a difference. State offices were closed early and many people left for home or a shelter by mid-afternoon. Of course OKC and more populated areas were spared but the public was informed days in advance of the potential of severe weather and being prone to it the public listened. There were 10 fatalities and atleast 3 occurred on I-40 near Calumet. The count would have surely been greater without the lead time.The real issue is the disconnect between the public and traditional media. Many radio/tv stations no longer interrupt programming with weather info. Then again many people no longer tune-in. Social media can be used to pass the message but more & more I just think we've about reached the mark on getting the message out there... it's simply common sense and reaction time and not everyone is going to heed the warning much less hear it.
 
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