top ten doppler gaps in coverage.

[Andy Rice]

A while back someone did a great study on the top ten doppler holes.

I thought it was posted somewhere on here.... but I can't find it.

Thanks,

Andy

 

[Danny Neal]

http://stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4456&highlight=radar+holes might not be the top 10 list as I didn't read through the thread but that's a good place to look.

 

[Scott Weberpal]

There's an FAA radar in Western North Dakota which is accessible through the Bismark, ND NWS website which fills that hole nicely...

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ridge/Arsr-4/

 

[Jason Loving]

How would someone go about fixing the radar hole in the Kirksville Mo. area. Agency Iowa was struck by a tornado that came from this area and the tornado went undetected until it struck Agency killing 2 people.

 

[Jesse Risley]

How would someone go about fixing the radar hole in the Kirksville Mo. area. Agency Iowa was struck by a tornado that came from this area and the tornado went undetected until it struck Agency killing 2 people.

You would need to put a radar somewhere in that vicinity, which would ultimately be the best solution.

 

[Brian Hurst]

There is a TV weather radar in (KOMU)columbia,mo it is 70 nm from kirksville mo.It might be of some use.In those areas spotters are even more inportant!Kirksville has a faa radar site(ARSR-3)north of town but I have never been able to find it on the internet like the one in wester north dakota.Here is a link that talks about it. http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2Z8V

 

[Mike Smith]

In the 1970's, the City of Lubbock raised the funds to purchase a WSR-74C radar and donated it to the National Weather Service. I believe there has been at least one other locally-donated radar, but I am not certain.

A consortium of governments in Missouri could, in theory, go to a company like RadTec or go to the CASA (U Mass) people, get a price quotation, and see if they funds could be raised (stimulus money?) to place a radar around Macon, MO. They could then donate the radar to the NWS.

 

[mikegeukes]

Be nice to see radars added to the following locations:
Springfield CO, Mason City IA, Hays KS, Kirksville MO, Pierre SD, Paris, TX Wausau WI

 

[afischer]

Wow, that is a nice find. Many nights growing up in western ND I waited for storms to ride the ridge toward me from eastern MT... and then have to watch them temporarily disappear as they hit the gigantic radar gap along the MT-ND border. Southeast MT-extreme western ND were horrible for coverage.

There's an FAA radar in Western North Dakota which is accessible through the Bismark, ND NWS website which fills that hole nicely...

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ridge/Arsr-4/

 

[Tyler_Costantini]

Anyone have anymore information on the ARSR-3 from what i can find it's a L-Band radar 1250-1350mhz,, Which seems VERY low to be of any real use as a mete radar. I would like to see what it's specs are as a weather radar, i would guess it has a GANT dish / megawatts of power to be worth a crap..

I will keep google'n for it..

 

[Heidi Farrar]

Be nice to see radars added to the following locations:
Springfield CO, Mason City IA, Hays KS, Kirksville MO, Pierre SD, Paris, TX Wausau WI

I'd like to see one in West Plains, MO also. Glendive, MT would be a good place for one, too.

 

[John Wetter]

ARSR-4 info:

Locations and some technical info

Technical Data

 

[Mike McDonald]

Here is some possibly helpful information I found while doing non-weather related research on FAA radars.

This shows "all" of the FAA and NWS radars. Unfortunately, I can't find my reference to the original source of this picture. It was either a presentation from Lincoln Labs or a paper from the National Academies. One of my objectives, which I accomplished, was to find site data that more or less confirmed all of these locations and radar types. Some aren't quite in the locations shown. There are a few radars not shown.

It shows the ARSR-3 at Kirksville. Here is the FAA system architecture link to the site:
http://nas-architecture.faa.gov/nas/location/location_data.cfm?fid=1045
From the FAA description of ARSR-3:
"ARSR-3 also has a weather channel with associated processing to provide weather contour information in digital format." But it appears this data is for FAA and not NWS use.
From an NWS presentation:
http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/147971.pdf
"The FAA operates four radar systems that include channels with capabilities for processing and distributing weather data. These systems are the Terminal Doppler Weather Radar (TDWR), the Airport Surveillance Radar, Models 9 and 11 (ASR-9, ASR-11), and the Air Route Surveillance Radar, Model 4 (ARSR-4)."

From the same paper:
"Prototype use of FAA ASR-11 data in Erie, PA, and ARSR-4 data in Williston, ND, and Makah, WA. Test operations in these locations indicate good capability of the FAA units to detect general snow and Lake Effect Snow."
A site, which in theory, shows the data from them (it doesn't always seem to work):
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge2/alpha/

The Williston (Watford City) direct link:
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ridge/Arsr-4/
and one ARSR-4 not listed (always down for "technical difficulties."
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar_lite.php?rid=gmo&product=N0R&loop=no

Mike

 

[Jason Loving]

If they where to add a doppler to a new city would they have to form a NWS office to run it?

 

[Mike Smith]

If they where to add a doppler to a new city would they have to form a NWS office to run it?

No. For example, Norman "runs" the -88D at Frederick. The office at SPS was closed.