• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Space Shuttle's Noctilucent Clouds

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I'll open by saying I'm really sorry I don't have any pictures of this mostly because it took me too long to figure out what was happening.

This morning I was driving to work before dawn. It was maybe an hour before full sunrise and I noted these amazing noctilucent clouds hovering over the Florida coast. This, of course, doesn't make any sense because of the season and the lattitude. But they were absolutely spectacular.

So I while I drove, I just pondered about any other explanations that could possibly explain what I was seeing. I had none. But again, this didn't make any sense.

When I got to work, I looked up again and I noted that the noctilucent clouds were now replaced with an orange glowing thing trail of altostratus. Jet contrail? Wouldn't explain that. Weird anvil blowoff? But without the storms??

Finally, as the sun came up I then saw a midlevel ribbon turning blue-purple to the south. It hit me that what I was seeing was in fact the shuttle's launch trail.

It was a true weather geek treat.
 
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From http://spaceweather.com
 
That is amazing--and precisely (though more dimly) what I saw. Fantastic...thank you sir.

I was afraid someone would scoff, but when I went to look at more images from Spaceweather.Com, I saw this one (and sit awed):

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Credit: Jonathan Sabin.
 
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Good day all,

This is a pretty strange phenomenon that happens during shuttle launches at or after dusk.

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Above: Taken from airliner about 75 miles west of a shuttle launch (last year in March of 2009), showing the "noctilucent cloud'.

I think the SRB separation (at more than 20 miles altitude) causes a plume of ice crystals that causes this, since it is ABOVE the dusk "terminator" (in the sunlight).
 
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I've seen the shuttle reenter at night before. Many many years back (93/94) and the contrail looks like any other except it glowed white. This was from Altus OK going west to east.
 
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