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"Solar Storms" and the Earth's weather

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I read something pretty interesting today on Tom Skilling's Blog:

Only four years ago, sunspots -- the product of intense storms on the surface of our
nearest star -- were at a 1,000 year high. It's been 14 months since the last significant
solar eruption, reports astronomer Dan Joyce. Some in the astronomy community report
the past month has been the first to be free of sunspots in 95 years. Energy from the
sun declines slightly in such periods. The Maunder Minimum, an extended period void
of sunspots in the late 17th Century, may have played a role in a global temperature
decline that caused the Thames River in London to freeze and European harvests to fail.
There is no consensus on how long the current solar lull may last, but some scientists
believe it may end in the next half year.
My question is, is there any documented proof that solar storms/sun spots have a direct effect on Earth's weather?

I did find a thread about it from a year ago or so, just wondering if anyone had anything MORE to say or link me to about this specific topic?
 
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Fire, or Ice? (Full Article)

Warning (this article is biblical in its nature but had some neat facts and ideas so if you are anti bible then don't go here as I am not posting this link for any religious discussion whatsoever but for its historical info.)


Our own planetary history demonstrates this principle with extreme clarity. Not so long ago, in the nineteen-sixties and seventies, scientists were actually predicting a new ice age in the not-too-distant future. Their observations drew much from the past, since the northern hemisphere was once covered by glaciers that reached as far south as the central regions of today’s America.

Furthermore, recent history reinforced their cooling hypothesis. Climatologists refer to a "Little Ice Age," which was observed in Europe between the 13th and mid-19th centuries. As late as 1816, the famous "year without a summer," witnessed freezing temperatures and frozen crops in Europe, Newfoundland and Canada. Midsummer ice on rivers and lakes, with accompanying blizzards, were recorded as far south as Pennsylvania.

It is hardly a surprise that the common factor in this climatic aberration seems to have been the Sun. It is well known that this period was marked by the virtual absence of turbulent solar storms. At times, sunspots were simply absent. Most of the time, they appeared with extreme rarity. Sunspots, by the way, are among the most well documented events in the history of astronomical observation. Literally centuries of observations are available.

Well known to astronomers is the so-called "Maunder Minimum." It marks the period from 1645 to 1715, when solar observers counted few, if any sunspots. In the year 1670, not a single one was seen. The three decades at the heart of this historical epoch produced only about 50 sunspots, as opposed to the normal 40 to 50 thousand for a similar period!


This situation, lasting about five centuries, brought the northern hemisphere much cooler temperatures than normal, in exact synchronization with diminished solar activity. More sunspots brought more heat, and vice versa. Certainly, human endeavors were in no way connected with the changes, since they happened long before the Industrial Revolution.

Interestingly, the years just prior to the Little Ice Age are referred to as "The Medieval Warm Period." During this period, explorers from Iceland were led westward from Iceland across the northern Atlantic by the famed explorer Erik the Red, whose forbearers had originally come from Norway. Around A.D. 982, they came to a lush new territory, so rich and green that they immediately colonized it. Because its southern regions were covered with lush vegetation, they promptly named it Greenland. Crops and vines flourished. Trade routes were established. Even an archdiocese from the Norwegian church was established there!

Needless to say, Greenland isn’t green anymore. After about four and a half centuries, rapid cooling quickly covered Greenland with ice. The Norwegians retreated back to their homeland. The fifteenth century brought Greenland a "Little Ice Age." From that day to this, the territory is still encrusted with ice that continues to accumulate, sometimes hundreds of feet deep, where crops used to grow and villages thrived.
 
This situation, lasting about five centuries, brought the northern hemisphere much cooler temperatures than normal, in exact synchronization with diminished solar activity. More sunspots brought more heat, and vice versa. Certainly, human endeavors were in no way connected with the changes, since they happened long before the Industrial Revolution.
It's been 14 months since the last significant
solar eruption, reports astronomer Dan Joyce. Some in the astronomy community report
the past month has been the first to be free of sunspots in 95 years.

Could this be at ALL related to the record cold some of the Northern Tier U.S. received this past winter? Or is that like saying La Nina produces more/less severe weather, something that hasn't been exacted. Coincidence? It does say over 5 centuries....so I am not sure 14 months of inactivity could affect our climate in any way....or could it?
 
Solar Activity and Climate



The red curve illustrates the solar activity, which is generally
increasing through an interval of 100 years, since the cycle length
has decreased from around 11.5 years to less than 10 years. Within
the same interval the Earth's average temperature as indicated by
the blue curve has increased by approximately 0.7 degree C. Even
the finer structures in the two curves have similar appearances.
(Reference: Friis-Christensen, E., and K. Lassen, Length of the solar
cycle: An indicator of solar activity closely associated with climate,
Science, 254, 698-700, 1991).

Article from March 20, 2007

Throughout the 20th century, solar flares, sunspots and geomagnetic storms, increased in number. According to Astronomy & Geophysics, "...this rise is simultaneous with emissions of greenhouses gases and an estimated increase in solar heat output, which together have warmed the Earth's temperature by a global average of 0.7 degrees centigrade. The solar contribution to the increase is variously estimated to be around 20% leaving greenhouse gases to make up the remaining 80%." Science Daily concluded that Clilverd and his colleagues believe solar activity is about to peak. Clilverd predicted there will be less solar activity in the 21st century.

Space storms will decline by as much as two thirds according to Clilverd's statistical research. Clilverd and his colleagues assume solar heat output will decline accordingly.

Disclaimer: I do not believe that Global warming is man made, I am convinced it is a natural cycle so I cannot be argued into changing that view.... However I do think pollution has many bad current and future consequences in store for us so I am all for reduced pollution for reasons of cancers, health etc, etc..
 
Not proof - but interesting read, even if brief.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/spaceweather/sway.html

Climate
It is already known that changes in the energy output of the sun can affect the climate here on earth. For example, the sun undergoes an 11-year cycle of activity, also known as the solar cycle. During solar maximum, the peak of the 11-year cycle, the sun shines a tiny bit brighter (up to one half of a percent). Studies of tree-ring thickness show that plant growth follows the ups and downs of the solar cycle. Another example is a historical event called the Maunder Minimum, a 65-year dip in solar activity that caused a period of global cooling on earth in the late seventeenth century. During this time, known as the Little Ice Age, temperatures plunged and the Baltic Sea froze over regularly.

Scientists are speculating that galactic cosmic rays (high-energy particles from outside our solar system) may also affect the earth’s climate. Some think that cosmic rays are involved with cloud formation in our atmosphere because they create ions (charged particles) in our atmosphere; ions act as “seedsâ€￾ (or nucleation centers) for clouds.

Here are a couple more links - makes ya think.

http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/1/3/3

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/primer/Primer3.htm - this one I thought was very interesting - it is a primer on space weather.

Here is an excerpt that I found of particular interest:

Recently, a more direct link between climate and solar variability has been speculated. Stratospheric winds near the equator blow in different directions, depending on the time in the solar cycle. Studies are under way to determine how this wind reversal affects global circulation patterns and weather. During proton events, many more energetic particles reach the Earth’s middle atmosphere. There they cause molecular ionization, creating chemicals that destroy atmospheric ozone and allow increased amounts of harmful solar ultraviolet radiation to reach the surface of the Earth. A solar proton event in 1982 resulted in a temporary 70% decrease in ozone densities.

Good topic :)
 
Impacts from space debris which travels in Earth crossing orbits can be expected to cause global disturbances to the Earth's climate at intervals of the order of 100,000 years. Much larger disturbances, probably leading to massive biosphere extinctions, appear to have occurred at intervals of the order of 100 million years.
Other space weather phenomena from outside the solar system which have the potential to cause global climate changes include galactic cosmic rays, nearby supernovae, interstellar dust clouds, binary star de-orbits, gamma ray bursters (19) and X-ray stars.

Hmmm so it's pretty safe to say that apocalyptic "space weather" won't be affecting our present life anytime in the near future.

........recent measurements of this solar constant have shown that the base output of the Sun can have temporary decreases of up to one-half percent. Atmospheric scientists say that this variation is significant and that it can modify climate over time. Plant growth has been shown to vary over the 11-year sunspot and 22-year magnetic cycles of the Sun, as evidenced in tree-ring records.

Interesting.... As Christine posted as well during solar maximum, "when the sun shines a tiny bit brighter," can a part of the Earth experience warmer temperatures than normal? Therefore leading to more drastic weather effects? (Maybe an increase in extreme weather?) I am not sure if I am 100% comprehending. Can these cycles be predicted on a yearly basis? (Says 11 year solar cycle) If they can figure out when the peak of the cycle is, what does that mean? Absolutely nothing? Or can we expect a varying climate? Or is it more so a "global warming/ozone layer" breach?

Sorry, just thinking out loud..... I am trying to dig up some information, but much of the research I found would require more research to find out what the original research actually means....lol
 
Danny,

I have been wondering the same thing, because of this summer seemed to be cooler then normal. Also didn't help having that big storm system come though in early august and wipe out all cape for nothern il till september it seemed. But how do they know when the cycle begins and ends? Are we going to be expecting a colder winter this year again? A lot of questions but not enough answers or research!
 
Okay, I had this nice long answer in the middle of the night, waited to send it and am glad I did. *Note to self - don't try to think when ya've had no sleep* It made no sense, so here is very shortened version.

My first question would be, why would we not think that what happens to/with the Sun has some effect on our weather? Do I have proof? No, but that could just be because space weather forecasting is still in its infancy, compared to other forecasting. Not to mention, it's a whole lot harder to prove/disprove things when part of the subject matter (the Sun) is uhm, so far away, not to mention, can't set-down on it to test, if you could survive burning up some way.

We know that flares, winds and CME's (if facing Earth), can have consequences. We know that aurora's, for example, are solar-induced geomagnetic storms, in the visual. We know that flares effect radio wavelengths. We also know that we get our warmth from the Sun, so why wouldn't our weather be effected? There is more, but those are some examples that most people know about.

I think if something major were to happen (solar wise), then yes, our weather could/would be effected, drastically. That being said though, found this next part interesting.

The core is so dense and the size of the Sun so great that energy released at the center of the Sun takes about 50,000,000 years to make its way to the surface, undergoing countless absorptions and re-emissions in the process. If the Sun were to stop producing energy today, it would take 50,000,000 years for significant effects to be felt at Earth!

[URL="http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/primer/primer.html" title="NOAA's Solar Weather Prediction Center]http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/primer/primer.html[/URL]

So, do I proof, no. But do I believe, yes, because of Earth's magnetic field and the Sun's magnetic fields. Two magnetic fields near each other, things are bound to happen, whether big or small.


- As an aside: I've seen the 11-year cycle stated and just wanted to add, for those that might not have looked it up: "The Sun, like Earth, has its seasons but its “yearâ€￾ equals 11 of ours.".

Just my thoughts...
 
I have limited knowledge on the subject; but I see some clear facts.

If the sun has a massive discharge of free electrons thru/by emission from a Solar Flare episode:
1) Then whatever free electrons get trapped in our Earth's magnetic field due to these events; then a surplus of electrons are being stored between the Earth and its magnetic field. As in being charged up like a capacitor or a battery. If has more than it can store, then it must dissipate it back into the vacuum of space thru 'sprites' that occur in thunderstorm activity.
Q: Has there been a record number of lightning strikes this year across the planet's surface? I'm sure NOAA/NASA knows..
2) Some scientists have stated that the Earth is also getting more light than it normally does - due primarily to the position of the Earth's elliptical cyclic proximity to the Sun. The extra photons and electrons absorbed by the earth in the peak cycle would correspond to the seven-year flux of weather 'mood swings' that are normally found/discovered in nature. Does this have an distinct effect on our weather? Does free electrons hand warming photons affect weather? Of course...
3) But if Solar Flares occur at the same time that Earth's cyclic proximity to the sun occurs; Will it skew and disrupt normal cyclic weather patterns?

Seems like the most possible scenario to me.
If that is what this discussion is referring to; if I have understood the essence of the thread correctly - that is..
One thing is certain; that weather chamges, and appears to have done so on a short, medium, and long scale of time.
Remember the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1816 - and the documented change in climate?

Wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
 
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I've observed that temperatures begin a downward trend in the Northern Hemisphere whenever football season begins. And within just a few months of the football season's end (sure enough) temperatures begin to rise again. Clearly, the solution to "global warming" is to extend the football season year-round.
 
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