• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Slab Ascent

Joined
Jan 8, 2005
Messages
794
Location
Huntsville, Alabama
The SPC discussion of our severe potential for Thursday mentions "slab ascent" along the front. I can possible guesstimate what this is, but would much prefer an educated definition.

*Edit* The mention was on our local NWS page, not SPC.

Thanks
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Since there seems to be no response to this term, I am postulating a guess based on field observations. In the smaller scale of a gust front, moist air can be observed rising over a shelf or roll cloud in a variety of forms, from round blobs to sharp-pointed 'teeth' or 'claws'--or occasionally a visibly rising mass. Would the latter, expanded to the scale of a full-sized cold front, possibly be an example of slab ascent? I have emailed SPC (who should be way too busy to answer right now) and have heard from a friend in the Huntsville NWS office who said he has only encountered the term in SPC outlooks in recent months and is unaware of the official definition.

Opinions?
 
Have you tried emailing the local NWS office where you saw that in discussion and ask them how they were using the term? I have always found NWS offices to be very responsive to questions.
 
Have you tried emailing the local NWS office where you saw that in discussion and ask them how they were using the term? I have always found NWS offices to be very responsive to questions.

Yes, thanks, David--Actually, the mentioned met at NWS Huntsville is an ST reader and saw this thread and emailed me, as indicated above. They are always more than helpful.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Dave,

I believe the forecaster was referring to rather uniform lift along the cold front as "slab ascent" - i.e., the immediate pre-frontal air mass ("slab") in the low levels is being lifted over the frontal surface.

The reason for using this terminology would be to support development of a sharp band of precip, which would take the form of a squall line if instability is present and the lift/front is deep enough.

Rich T.
 
Additional definition graciously supplied by Corey Mead via Andy Kula, both NWS:

"Probably the best description for 'slab ascent' is an unbroken, two-dimensional swath of ascent created by a frontal boundary and/or accompanying mcs cold pool as described by James et al. 2005."

The paper itself ("Enviromental Distinction between Cellular and Slabular Convective Lines" by P. James, J. Michael Fritsch, Paul M. Markowski) is online but viewable by subscription or purchase only. The abstract at AMS Journals Online gives three paragraphs. I have tried twice to place a link here, but it won't connect.

The "two-dimensional" parameter is interesting.

Thanks to all of you.
 
Back
Top