No tornado warnings?

[Jason Bolt]

Sitting here watching in northern Cherokee Co KS. Looks similar to what you documented yesterday. Numerous landspout looking funnels one after another none of them lasting very long or touching the ground. From radio traffic it looks like SGF initially passed on a warning but relayed to spotters that weak brief landspouts were possible. 911 here has been going nuts w/ public reports of funnel clouds. I guess that made SGF pull the trigger.

 

[Jim Saueressig]

In yesterdays case I understood that the weather service told 911 dispatch it wasn't possible to have funnels so when I made the second call for the next I told them to let them know that they were of the land spout variety and they started getting reports from the LEO's that started spotting them as well and they finally issued a warning and at or very near that point one finally made ground contact.

In the two times I have seen this scenario the weather service didn't have radar to back any such report so it seems to get wrote off as a useless call.

 

[Mike Hollingshead]

In yesterdays case I understood that the weather service told 911 dispatch it wasn't possible to have funnels so when I made the second call for the next I told them to let them know that they were of the land spout variety and they started getting reports from the LEO's that started spotting them as well and they finally issued a warning and at or very near that point one finally made ground contact.

In the two times I have seen this scenario the weather service didn't have radar to back any such report so it seems to get wrote off as a useless call.

Omaha NWS yesterday actually put out a statement numerous funnel reports were coming in, some touching down, but they weren't going to warn them because they would be weak. This near Council Bluff. So evidently the same sort of goings on were happening up here too. I thought they were all just high till I saw your report from KS. 2010, just wants to produce vorticies!

 

[Jim Saueressig]

Omaha NWS yesterday actually put out a statement numerous funnel reports were coming in, some touching down, but they weren't going to warn them because they would be weak. This near Council Bluff. So evidently the same sort of goings on were happening up here too. I thought they were all just high till I saw your report from KS. 2010, just wants to produce vorticies!

I could understand not issuing a tornado warning and maybe just issuing a special weather statement if they were just out in the country but to just up and say they are not there automatically is probably not the answer either. My thoughts are that they would be weak enough to walk into for giggles in a field but you could get some lawn furniture and such tossed in a residential area that could potentially cause someone some harm so....

Maybe a mod could switch this to a DISC rather than a NOW for further discussion since this was a very limited but multi-day event??

 

[Jeff Snyder]

I've moved some posts around... The above were in the 7/8/10 NOW thread, but the ensuing discussion was not really about ongoing weather from 7/8/10. This could be a DISC thread since most of the discussion pertains to events from 7/7. However, I think the direction of this may be towards a broader discussion or at least discussion about both 7/7/10 and 7/8/10, so we'll put it in W&C and open it to more general and/or multi-day discussion. This is an exception to the "no discussion about events less than 48 hrs old" rule since discussion may be more about policy than any particular event.

 

[Jason Bolt]

I see what ya did Jeff. I would like to say however that the new title "No tornado warnings?" with mine being the first post makes it look like I am calling into question the actions of WFO SGF yesterday and I am definitely not. What I said was in the context of responding to Jim's original post. Again, now it seems like I am questioning their decision and I am not. I feel like they had a handle on what was going on. No big deal, just my two cents.