National Geographic -- Twisted Sunday

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I haven't seen any discussion of this, at least recently, so here's a reminder.

Another (well two actually) National Geographic tornado program is coming up this Sunday, the 18th of December.

National Geographic Channel's Twisted Sunday is about to hit with two high-velocity world premiere programs. Explore the world of tornado hunters on Twister Chasers and climb aboard a homemade tank to experience a spinning vortex from the inside on Tornado Intercept. See how Mother Nature reacts when people fail to flee a tornado more than two miles wide. And find out whether or not an armor-plated Ford pickup can withstand a direct hit from what some call, \"the finger of God.\"
 
Awww, the "finger of God"?? Must we endure non-humorous Twister references? C'mon, Nat'l Geo. I mean, really.

I suppose I'll watch anyway.
 
Originally posted by Scott A. Kampas
And find out whether or not an armor-plated Ford pickup can withstand a direct hit from what some call, \"the finger of God.\"

If that's referring to an F-5, I think we all know the answer to that :)
 
Bump.


Reminding myself and anyone else that means to record this.
 
I looked ahead on my Dish Network DVR. Looks like if you start at 8pm eastern for 3 hours of recording you'll get it all.

1st hour - TIV Intercept (new)
2nd hour - Twister Chasers (new)
3rd hour - Secrets of the Tornado (old)
 
oh man - I'm laughing my butt off because the Outlaw Chasers made it into this program ... my brother and I met them one day, and coincidentally - so did my mother in a completely different location on the same day. We have quite a story but I don't want to post it online. Seeing them on here is just too funny.

Seeing that tailgate brings our entire conversation back now - - -
 
Maybe I'm over analyzing these shows - but I just hate it when they don't stay true to the date and event and show chasers on one day and then cut to video of a tornado or event on a completely different day or year!
 
Maybe I'm over analyzing these shows - but I just hate it when they don't stay true to the date and event and show chasers on one day and then cut to video of a tornado or event on a completely different day or year!

Me too-and how they showed the June 12th footage before the June 9th footage and made it sound as if the 12th happened before the 9th (referring to the 2nd hour). At least it was a good chance to finally see some 2005 chase season footage on my TV screen instead of just little .wmv clips online.
 
oh man - I'm laughing my butt off because the Outlaw Chasers made it into this program ... my brother and I met them one day, and coincidentally - so did my mother in a completely different location on the same day. We have quite a story but I don't want to post it online. Seeing them on here is just too funny.

Seeing that tailgate brings our entire conversation back now - - -


Who are the outlaw chasers?
 
OK, OK....don't bite my head off just because I felt like commenting and giving my opinions on the show. I just watched the 1st two hours of the programming and I have a few comments.

Firstly, who is the "yahoo" from California that thinks driving into tornadoes in his vehicle will be safe because of a little armor. Sorry folks, but just because Josh Wurman says it's OK to go in front of a tornado doesn't mean it's safe and/or won't flip your vehicle. Tractor trailers and boxcars in tornadoes get thrown around like matchbox toys all of the time and he is lucky he did not get into a powerful enough tornado or he would have some problems. When I was chasing this Spring, I was behind the TIV for several storms. I'm glad I did not follow him. From what I saw on the show, it does not seem that he is that experienced or educated in this field (I thought he would have been an experienced, veteran chaser or part of a University research team). Nope. And this is no place for someone who is not experienced or educated on severe storms. Nat. Geo. must never have had a Met. check the terminology before giving the go ahead to running the show. The TIV guy was telling us that this tornado could be an "HP Tornado". "HP Tornadoes are common out here". HUH. I know what he is trying to teach the audience but what's an "HP tornado" Meteorologically speaking? No such definition. It does not exist.

Second, Josh Wurman being featured was nicely done and he seems like a good guy. Well qualified and probably a pleasure to chase with.

Thirdly, the "Twister Sisters" came across as smart, safe chasers. I've read there bios before and on this show they seemed to know a lot about severe storms. I liked the decisions they made and the respect they have for the storms intensity. The one thing that made me cringe was when those people hopped within inches of the power lines. Man, one little brush or vapor flash and they would have been DOA. Next time, wait for the power to be cut or drive the 5 miles to go home the other way. Whoa.

So, 2 out of the 3 groups were very good to watch. Hopefully the TIV Guys will stay safe and think of a safer way to document tornadoes.

Go ahead...start chiming in but be nice to me.
 
Since I became a storm chaser I've been less and less interested in watching TV programs about them. Weird.
 
Is TIV any more stupider( :roll: ) than a chaser going 80 MPH on a back road just to get footage?

I admire the guy for being able to pursue his passion and still set limits.
 
LOL. I can see it on next year's documentary. TIV guy stating "Stainless Steel Stove Tops" are nothing to mess with. The tornado starts at the ground and build skyward as the positive and negative charges repel. Gee thanks for educating the public incorrectly TIV guy.
 
Actually, I felt like this was a pretty entertaining way to spend my Sunday night ... I'd rather watch fresh footage of this year's tornadoes than Desperate Housewives any day.

As for the TIV guy, this was the first time I'd seen how he and Dr. Wurman interract during the chase and their system was pretty interesting. Yes - dangerous work there - but if you have a live doppler a few hundred yards from the tornado telling you when it is too dangerous to make a go of it, I think it's a much better scenario than some of the other projects we see out there these days ... the section concerning wind speed at the ground vs. wind speed higher up in the tube was particularly interesting, and I'm sure that they would like the chance to test that a little more. I guess what I'm saying is that if someone just has to get inside a tornado, that would be about the best case scenario for getting it done. I just thought it was interesting, I guess.

Good to see Dave Ewoldt's Hiawatha clips thrown in there too ...

Like I said - pretty fun way to spend a cold, snowy Sunday night in Kansas City, all in all. I've learned that these shows just can't seem to hit 100% accuracy ... or be able to convey everything that every individual chaser would like to see, but feel like they did a decent job of getting a lot of good points across ... like the fact that a lot of serious chasers are also serious about reporting what they see. It was also good to see some of the skill involved in doing this conveyed for once, rather than the program just making it seem like a bunch of folks hop in their cars and go find the closest tornado. Tim M's coverage of Ft. Worth was one of the more interesting perspectives I'd seen on that event. Anyway - that's my review, I guess.
 
Well, since I am a moderator, I will not dish out much of my opinion..

My favorite show was the third one they had on where they featured Tim S. I really enjoyed all of that :).
 
Well I enjoyed the first one on the TIV the most. The TIV folks seem like fun people and I'm glad they do what they want. The support vehicle seemed to intercept the tornado more than the TIV.

I too was was less than thrilled with how they put alot of it together. How hard is it to cooridinate and make sure you are saying things right?

I caught one interesting blurb on the one. Roger has a pending tornado in a year record of 52? Anyone know what year this was? If you didn't get it on video then I don't think you'd even try counting it for a guiness book entry. I wouldn't think it'd need to 'pend' that long if it is on video. Maybe it is from this year though, I'm not sure. I have all his videos and it has me interested.
 
I was struck by how close we came to seeing our first storm chaser death caused directly by a tornado. The Nat'l Geographic cameramen came as close to death as I've ever seen...that big barrel that was flying around at speeds >100 mph would've certainly done them in. Nevertheless, it was stunning video.

Gabe
 
Personally, I enjoyed all three shows that were on tonight. As Mike P. said earlier it is a lot better than watching Desperate Housewives on a Sunday night. I can't complain.

I was a little skeptical about the TIV show but it was interesting to learn more about the TIV and it's purposes. Although, when Sean Casey admitted he didn't care about the meteorological aspect of it I shuttered. It was funny when he talked about getting mad when people refer to the TIV as "Dumb and Dumber Without Fur" It almost seemed the purpose of the show was to show that Casey had no clue what he was talking but his reasons for doing what he's doing are valid because of his association with Wurman and the DOWs. All in all the plot tried to tie in Casey as a family man that has personal values while at the same time still pursuing storms for the fascination of it. This was a good part IMO because usually shows like this try to portray chasers as crazy adrenaline happy people who don't care about the well being of others and I think all three of these shows did a good job of that.

The second show was all about the footage and I think if anything good came out of these shows tonight it was that there was a more positive image towards chasers and our overall responsibility on the roads. The thing that really got me about this show was that there was a lot of video used from days that had nothing to do with that particular event. June 9th was a perfect example with footage used from June 7th in South Dakota to describe what I believe the were trying to portray as the Trego Co. storm to the southwest of Hill City.

The third show was great to watch as well. It was fun to see Tim Samaras' video again. I was curious though if they said Tim's Storm Lake, IA video was shot in 2004 or 2005. It seemed to me that they tried to imply that it took place in 2005. Which, obviously wouldn't be correct. Also, Tim Marshall's segment on the Fort Worth tornado was very interesting.

It was cool to see the June 9 Damar-Palco tornadoes from all the different angles on the three shows. Truly an amazing day.
 
Wow, there's another crazy person out there other than myself chasing in an 87-95 Pathfinder. With all of that equipment on top, makes me wonder how he's got it crammed inside.

I think the TIV is just a first of it's kind and there will be bigger and better ones down the road. It's amazing that someone actually took the time to build something like that. Maybe the next one won't leak. I think it's just paving the road and opening the doors to show people that "Hey, I'm crazy enough to build something like this" and they'll realize it's okay.

I'm wondering if you could design a vehicle using air-ride suspension (for those that aren't familiar with it, it's popular on show cars (lowriders), semi's, , and ambulances that allows the vehicle's suspension to be adjusted and raise or lower the vehicle anywhere from a few inches to a foot) and the body of those little orange camera probes that use the wind to put down force on them and then park this thing "in front" of a weak tornado, drop it to the ground so air cannot get under it, and see what happens. Good idea? Bad idea? Mike you're stupid idea?

Just a thought. Only problem would be width restrictions on roads while driving, but if you can use the wind to hold it down, it wouldn't have to be large. Like a Geo Metro with a 4.3L V-6, a couple seats, all-wheel drive, and a fuel cell. It could happen :) Who wants to finance me?
 
Wow, there's another crazy person out there other than myself chasing in an 87-95 Pathfinder.

BTW - anyone else notice the quick pan of a red sport utility with lots of gear on top in Texas? Billy G flashed through my head (I'll have to go back and see if it was a satellite dish or not, but seemed like it could have been). To have BG and the outlaws in the same show is just too much fun for one night.
 
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