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More brutal winter weather coming our way?

Rocky Rascovich

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I've been watching the evolution of this since day 16 on the GFS, models continue to waffle a bit but over all consensus is for at least moderately below normal temperatures to continue from the continental divide on east. I included this time sensitive link (good until the next 06Z GFS run comes out)
just because it's on the extreme end of what could happen, but I strongly suspect not.. however, with a healthy snow pack from Okla. on north, modification of this arctic air mass will be minimalized. Still, the source of this potential outbreak is more from northern Canada and Alaska than cross polar/Siberian. Also.. check out the potential for a "historic" nor'easter. This should be interesting to see how close it verifies.


http://ggweather.com/loops/gfs_06z_ten.shtml
 
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I haven't looked at the GFS in ages, so this is a pretty sobering way to get reacquainted. Good grief, whatever happened to El Nino? Looks like the Great Lakes is due for another bombing, and as for the New England states...well, I for one hope the GFS is out to lunch.
 
Cold Blast Midwest?? East Coast Nor'Eastern??

In looking at the GFSx models, I can clearly see that we will be getting another polar air invasion of the Midwest starting Wednesday night, Dec. 30. The 850mb page for 00Z Thursday clearly shows the cold air invading the Midwest from the northern borders.

As far as a repeat of the "Christmas Blizzard" this week, forgit it. :D The jet stream configuration has changed from a deep-V to a broad U shape. The bottom of the jet stream is down in TX. That's where a band of tropical moisuture will come up thru Mexico. This is clearly seen on Tuesday, 12Z on the SFC Prec/SLPres graph page. This will lead to severe storms in the South.

Also the low pressure that develops in the South will move up the East Coast and triggers a NorEastern event by 00Z Saturday, Jan 2.

Do anybody else see these trends developing??
 
In looking at the GFSx models, I can clearly see that we will be getting another polar air invasion of the Midwest starting Wednesday night, Dec. 30. The 850mb page for 00Z Thursday clearly shows the cold air invading the Midwest from the northern borders.

As far as a repeat of the "Christmas Blizzard" this week, forgit it. The jet stream configuration has changed from a deep-V to a broad U shape. The bottom of the jet stream is down in TX. That's where a band of tropical moisuture will come up thru Mexico. This is clearly seen on Tuesday, 12Z on the SFC Prec/SLPres graph page. This will lead to severe storms in the South.

Also the low pressure that develops in the South will move up the East Coast and triggers a NorEastern event by 00Z Saturday, Jan 2.

Do anybody else see these trends developing??
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Right now the system appears to weak to cause too much trouble in the North East states. The poor people up in the OHV keep complaining about lack of snowfall. They have been having poor luck with the systems so far. I guess you could say that the NOAA's Winter Outlook for the OHV is spot on.

My attention turns to the January 9-13th storm. Right now the GFS has it suppressed and then turning into a coastal and potentially bombing out the Mid-Atl/NE with snow. Could end up cutting through the Apps as well.
 
Check out this latest run of the 0Z GFS 31Dec. If this verifies, near all time record low temps are in store for the southern plains, especially if a snow cover is present. Currently, my thinking is.. cut the strength of this cold snap in half for this time period, then a gradual warming trend thereafter is more the reality. Check out the hours 180 thru 250. This is time sensitive until the next 0Z run starts.


http://ggweather.com/loops/gfs_00z_ten.shtml
 
Okla. Snow & Arctic Air

Rocky looking at the 12Z WRF, GFS looks like 6-12" of new snow over OKLA this week. The temps range -20 KC to 10 Tulsa by Thursday the snow going to be around for a while.
 
Jeff Piotrowski said:
Rocky looking at the 12Z WRF, GFS looks like 6-12" of new snow over OKLA this week. The temps range -20 KC to 10 Tulsa by Thursday the snow going to be around for a while.
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The 12Z GFS is still on board with some impressive cold anomalies for later next week (5-12 Jan) however, I'm not buying into the 6-12" snows. there is no real cyclogenesis I'm seeing that supports that unless I'm missing something here. Maybe some upslope with minor mid/upper level waves that could support a dusting to maybe an inch or two. Where are you seeing the NAM go out past 84hrs? I looked at the accuweather.com site, but that doesn't go past 84hrs either. One thing for sure, the mosquitoes won't be a problem for awhile!:D
 
The 00Z NAM/12Z UKMET both support 2-4 inch snows across the NRN half of OK late Saturday night/Sunday morning. The GEM has been hinting at this for days...but further northeast. The GFS is yet to come aboard. Wish I could see the ECMWF QPF from my current remote location.
 
it's gonna get pretty cold here in the Cincinnati area. It's 16degrees F in Indianapolis IN right now, 33 here in Cinci. I'll be snowboarding for the next three days so I'm okay with that :)
 
Rocky havent looked at it real close...but last I saw and heard from my chase partner...had a QPF over central OK on saturday (01-09) of 1+...I am finally home and gonna study it alittle more...As a truck driver...dont want no more snow...
 
It's going to be brutally cold in much of the central and southern US on Thursday. High temps in central OK may not get out of the teens, and highs in the TX panhandle may not get out of the mid 20's.
 
Expected low for New Brighton tonight: -17F
Expected high for tomorrow: -2F.

Many places in northern Minnesota expected to get down to -31F tonight with a high tomorrow of -10F. :0
 
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