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Does anyone have any links to papers done on what would be the perfect temperature for Earth?
It's misleading to ask what Earth's 'ideal temperature' is. Here's what's really important
Does anyone have any links to papers done on what would be the perfect temperature for Earth?
Really interesting stuff here guys. I’d especially like to thank Robert for pointing out things I’ve never even seen being discussed anywhere else. Very informative.
Does anyone have any links to papers done on what would be the perfect temperature for Earth? Would it be a degree or two cooler, warmer, or is it just right where it is now? If the temp could be locked in (not likely), what temperature would benefit mankind the most?
There would be a ton to look into. For instance, warmer temps would increase usable crop lands North, but decrease lands South. Someone else pointed out that some areas are getting drier, while some areas are getting wetter.
That would be a super interesting read if a comprehensive study has been done on that. I wasn’t able to find it myself.
When I see things like "Particularly one where it will cost money they don’t have" it sounds more like politics than science to me. I say this because it argues that the only costs people might encounter are if they do something to reduce human contributions to climate change. This viewpoint totally ignores the fact that there are tremendous costs associated with NOT doing something. If you don't believe that, ask anyone who lives in Paradise, California. Or perhaps Miami, Florida, where more and more of the city is getting flooded even when there is NOT a hurricane or tropical storm. Getting back to the science, if you look at the AMS material quoted in Gary Latimer's post above, Point 1 regarding precipitation is VERY consistent with the point that deleterious effects are occurring from climate change - more and worse floods in some parts of the country, more drought and wildfires in others. And both the temperature trends and the consequences are very consistent with what models linking carbon dioxide to climate are saying. Just because there is not a clear effect on, for example, the frequency and severity of tornadoes does not mean that there are not significant and serious effects on other aspects of climate that influence human lives.
I’m not seeing anything past “Here’s what’s really important “ try again?
BACK TO SCIENCE: IF only a handful of western nations contribute to reversing climate change, does anyone know if that will be enough to save the planet? (That is a real question, not a snarky one)
I’m not seeing anything past “Here’s what’s really important “ try again?
Absolutely. But we're still at the stage where most of the people in a position to do the most good don't believe that there's an issue.