Marcus Diaz
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This is one of the first images from the town of Guiuan, which was the site of the first landfall.
Haiyan - Philippines
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This is one of the first images from the town of Guiuan, which was the site of the first landfall.
Warren Faidley
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Latest from the BBC news wire regarding Tacloban:
"Tacloban is totally destroyed. Some people are losing their minds from hunger or from losing their families," high school teacher Andrew Pomeda told AFP news agency.
"People are becoming violent. They are looting business establishments, the malls, just to find food, rice and milk... I am afraid that in one week, people will be killing from hunger."
The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports that the scene in Tacloban is one of utter devastation. Our correspondent says hundreds of people are at the airport, itself badly damaged, trying to get on a flight out of the city.
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"Tacloban is totally destroyed. Some people are losing their minds from hunger or from losing their families," high school teacher Andrew Pomeda told AFP news agency.
"People are becoming violent. They are looting business establishments, the malls, just to find food, rice and milk... I am afraid that in one week, people will be killing from hunger."
The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports that the scene in Tacloban is one of utter devastation. Our correspondent says hundreds of people are at the airport, itself badly damaged, trying to get on a flight out of the city.
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Marcus Diaz
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The Church of the Immaculate Conception, Guiuan, built in 1718.
And today.
And today.
Shawn Schuman
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More images from the devastation in Guiuan.
What appears to be forest blowdown from the extreme winds:
More here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.356701284467306.1073741835.323973651073403&type=1
Video of some of the damage in Guiuan:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/regions/11/10/13/first-look-destruction-guiuan-samar
Some of the first video from Giporlos shows some extreme winds. Around the 4:11 mark the winds look every bit as intense as Mike Theiss' infamous Hurricane Charley gas station video, if not more so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w56BvKtvWx4
If you can afford to donate, please do. There are a number of organizations that are already working in the Philippines. If you'd like to donate, I'd recommend having a look at Charity Navigator's Super Typhoon Haiyan page. They have information that will help you find the charities that get the best use out of your donations.
What appears to be forest blowdown from the extreme winds:
More here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.356701284467306.1073741835.323973651073403&type=1
Video of some of the damage in Guiuan:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/regions/11/10/13/first-look-destruction-guiuan-samar
Some of the first video from Giporlos shows some extreme winds. Around the 4:11 mark the winds look every bit as intense as Mike Theiss' infamous Hurricane Charley gas station video, if not more so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w56BvKtvWx4
If you can afford to donate, please do. There are a number of organizations that are already working in the Philippines. If you'd like to donate, I'd recommend having a look at Charity Navigator's Super Typhoon Haiyan page. They have information that will help you find the charities that get the best use out of your donations.
Shawn Schuman
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Unbelievable. Near the shore in Tacloban:
Marcus Diaz
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And perhaps even worse news...
Jason Russell
EF0
What astounds me about some of the photos is the discrepancies between the buildings that survived and the buildings that didn't. Among the destroyed buildings there were straw shacks still standing, and there were concrete buildings utterly leveled.
It had to be a terrifying experience for anybody near the water.
It had to be a terrifying experience for anybody near the water.
cdcollura
EF5
SUPER TYPHOON "HAIYAN" - PHILIPPINES - AS BAD AS IT GETS
Super typhoon Haiyan carved a path of death and destruction from the central Philippines and into northern Vietnam - With the most devastating effects in Tacloban City and the southeast tip of Samar. Over 10,000 people are dead and Tacloban City (with nearly a half a million residents) has been almost completely destroyed after being hit with a massive storm surge and winds sustained at nearly 200 MPH! This is one of the strongest tropical cyclones to make landfall at such intensity. Damage inflicted by the wind alone can be on par to a violent tornado. Afterwards, lack of food and water, as well as massive civilian un-rest, looting, and desperation follow.
In the graphic above, three unbelievable satellite and radar (base reflectivity) views of the storm during its first landfall play out. The symmetry (annular, "truck-tire" appearance of the cyclone core area) and intensity (195 MPH winds) make this storm both a terrifying and breathtaking sight.
In the lower part of the image, the main damage inflicted to Tacloban City appears to be disintegration of nearly every structure, including trees (with many trees showing violent tornado-like damage, such as debarking). How anyone can survive being in something like this is hard to understand (including the group of chasers I know that actually were in the northern part of Tacloban City - Maybe that area of Tacloban City was a bit north of the strongest winds)? Even more alarming was the sense of complacency before the storm. The chase groups there reporting people drinking and playing pool at bars, restaurants still busy, and markets still had all their supplies (no long lines) nor any evacuations. These poor people had no idea what was coming just hours later. All chase teams (iCyclone group, CNN, and Jim Edds) fared OK during the storm, but one member was injured saving the lives of some locals at their battered hotel. All were airlifted out of the area to Cebu City, and eventually made it out of the area. I'm both envy of them, but at the same time, grateful they're OK and hope they don't get mentally perturbed on what they did and / or saw.
You can visit the storm chasing pages of both www.iCyclone.com as well as www.ExtremeStorms.com for some interesting and down-right terrifying first-hand accounts of this storm ... Also, I urge anyone to be generous, and send ANY kind of aid to this stricken area of the W Pacific.
The onslaught of typhoons in the western Pacific basin continues. In early November 2013 super typhoon Haiyan (with category-5 winds) blasted its way into the Philippines after skirting just north of the island of Palau, eventually making landfall in Vietnam. Some folks from the iCyclone team (who live in Hong Kong as well as California) and Jim Edds have been intercepting these storms as the tropical Atlantic remains stone-dead. These folks were there for this beast in the Philippines and barely got out afterwards. Wind shear and dry air were nowhere to be found in the western Pacific in 2013! In the IR satellite image above, super typhoon Haiyan (with at least 190 MPH winds) is just about to make landfall in the Philippines on November 8, 2013. And YES - The arrow points to the location a group of storm chasers in Tacloban City just about when they were to take a direct-hit with the right-quadrant of this storm! This is one of the strongest tropical cyclones to make landfall in history. If the Atlantic remains quiet the next few years, I will have to consider heading out for these storms myself!
In the graphic above, three unbelievable satellite and radar (base reflectivity) views of the storm during its first landfall play out. The symmetry (annular, "truck-tire" appearance of the cyclone core area) and intensity (195 MPH winds) make this storm both a terrifying and breathtaking sight.
In the lower part of the image, the main damage inflicted to Tacloban City appears to be disintegration of nearly every structure, including trees (with many trees showing violent tornado-like damage, such as debarking). How anyone can survive being in something like this is hard to understand (including the group of chasers I know that actually were in the northern part of Tacloban City - Maybe that area of Tacloban City was a bit north of the strongest winds)? Even more alarming was the sense of complacency before the storm. The chase groups there reporting people drinking and playing pool at bars, restaurants still busy, and markets still had all their supplies (no long lines) nor any evacuations. These poor people had no idea what was coming just hours later. All chase teams (iCyclone group, CNN, and Jim Edds) fared OK during the storm, but one member was injured saving the lives of some locals at their battered hotel. All were airlifted out of the area to Cebu City, and eventually made it out of the area. I'm both envy of them, but at the same time, grateful they're OK and hope they don't get mentally perturbed on what they did and / or saw.
You can visit the storm chasing pages of both www.iCyclone.com as well as www.ExtremeStorms.com for some interesting and down-right terrifying first-hand accounts of this storm ... Also, I urge anyone to be generous, and send ANY kind of aid to this stricken area of the W Pacific.
The onslaught of typhoons in the western Pacific basin continues. In early November 2013 super typhoon Haiyan (with category-5 winds) blasted its way into the Philippines after skirting just north of the island of Palau, eventually making landfall in Vietnam. Some folks from the iCyclone team (who live in Hong Kong as well as California) and Jim Edds have been intercepting these storms as the tropical Atlantic remains stone-dead. These folks were there for this beast in the Philippines and barely got out afterwards. Wind shear and dry air were nowhere to be found in the western Pacific in 2013! In the IR satellite image above, super typhoon Haiyan (with at least 190 MPH winds) is just about to make landfall in the Philippines on November 8, 2013. And YES - The arrow points to the location a group of storm chasers in Tacloban City just about when they were to take a direct-hit with the right-quadrant of this storm! This is one of the strongest tropical cyclones to make landfall in history. If the Atlantic remains quiet the next few years, I will have to consider heading out for these storms myself!
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Shawn Schuman
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Tacloban didn't experience the most intense winds for a few reasons, the most significant being that the northern eyewall had already begun interacting with land (particularly Eastern Samar, which likely did experience peak winds). If Josh's pressure readings are reasonably accurate (~960mb at/near the northern edge of the eyewall), even with a very tight pressure gradient I'd say that would suggest Haiyan had started to weaken somewhat by the time it reached Tacloban. I saw a blog mention that a reading of 889mb was taken during landfall on Guiuan, but as there's no official source thus far I'd treat that with a degree of skepticism. I don't think there's any question that Haiyan was above (perhaps well above) Cat. 5 threshold for some time before and possibly during the first landfall on Eastern Samar. It's possible some areas in or south of Tacloban also experienced Cat. 5-intensity winds, but most likely nothing like Haiyan's peak intensity.
MClarkson
EF5
That damage picture looks like surge... Cat 5 winds, while destructive, are not known to flatten every building like that. Cat 5 surge on the other hand... is one of the most destructive forces of nature.
cdcollura
EF5
Good day all,
This is correct ... The eye even shrunk and veered left at 2nd landfall - Which was NOT in Tachloban, but more towards Palo and into Taunan (the latter probably getting into the calm eye), 20-30 miles south of Josh's / Jim's locations. The 960 MB reading seems reasonable. I think the damage photo of the flattened landscape might be on the southern side of the city, in 140 MPH sustained winds (certainly not 195).
Also, the western standards (10-Minute mean wind, not 1-minute mean) tends to over estimate the intensity (147 MPH vs 195 MPH in this case, respectively). The peak gusts (3sec / 10sec) were probably near EF-5 tornado speeds, though. Still, being in 140 sustained winds is no east feat - And those folks (although I envy them greatly) are lucky they escaped with their lives.
This is correct ... The eye even shrunk and veered left at 2nd landfall - Which was NOT in Tachloban, but more towards Palo and into Taunan (the latter probably getting into the calm eye), 20-30 miles south of Josh's / Jim's locations. The 960 MB reading seems reasonable. I think the damage photo of the flattened landscape might be on the southern side of the city, in 140 MPH sustained winds (certainly not 195).
Also, the western standards (10-Minute mean wind, not 1-minute mean) tends to over estimate the intensity (147 MPH vs 195 MPH in this case, respectively). The peak gusts (3sec / 10sec) were probably near EF-5 tornado speeds, though. Still, being in 140 sustained winds is no east feat - And those folks (although I envy them greatly) are lucky they escaped with their lives.
MClarkson
EF5
Brutal surge damage before and after pics
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303914304579193971305978200?mod=e2tw
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303914304579193971305978200?mod=e2tw
cdcollura
EF5
Good day all,
In one of the pictures there's a round building right ON the water, with minimal damage (like a coliseum or something). Maybe that would have been an awesome 'vantage' point!
In one of the pictures there's a round building right ON the water, with minimal damage (like a coliseum or something). Maybe that would have been an awesome 'vantage' point!
MClarkson
EF5
Ya, I know what you are talking about that was my first thought as well. That position looks solid.
Warren Faidley
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The only issue with even substantial buildings near the coast are destructive impacts from large ships and barges riding on the storm surge. I saw this during Katrina in Biloxi, MS. Our first choice for a good vantage point was a heavy duty 3-4 story concrete garage connected to a casino. We never made it there, but in the AM we found our preferred location had been pulverized from a rogue barge.
Warren
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