Patrick Marsh
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EDIT: Mods, can someone change the title to "Chasers and Scientists: Suggestions for Working Together". I didn't intend for the title I used to sound so "know-it-all-ish" like it does.
In another thread I was asked my thoughts on how chasers and scientists can work together. Here are a couple of my initial ideas and then an opportunity.
1. One of the things I'm currently working on has more to do with the forecast people would do before the chase, but is important nonetheless. In the coming weeks (sometime in July I hope), we hope to launch a new NSSL WRF webpage with some new graphics and products. We will also include some survey questions to help get feedback about how the NSSL WRF is doing and what people think of the new products. Please take a look at these new products and give your feedback. It will help us develop new visualization techniques and improve the quality of the model.
2. If you have a mobile mesonet strapped to your car, please consider sharing this data with your local NWS office. Ideally, spotter network would find a way to include your mobile mesonet data with the position icon. This information is absolutely invaluable in the warning decision process. Being able to see the ground circulation of the mesocyclone, seeing the outflow surge ahead of the storm, etc is incredibly useful in realtime operations.
3. After a chase in which you see some really interesting features, please document it to the best of your ability. Then send this to someone in the research community and/or operational community. If nothing else, send it to me. We never know when something like this can come in handy.
4. Same with interesting video. A picture is worth a thousand words.
5. Sharing mobile mesonet data after the fact can be extremely beneficial. I'm currently working on a study of the 1 May 2010 High Risk tornado bust. I'd love to have high resolution (spatial and temporal) mobile mesonet data from AR on this day. The key here is to put all this information into a single repository so that someone who is interested in doing a study knows where to find it.
6. If you see something interesting don't be afraid to contact someone and let them know. If for no other reason, let me know and I'll try to put you in contact with someone who is involved with studying that phenomenon. Be willing to work with the scientist or local NWS office in investigating the phenomenon. You never know if a conference paper or something of the sort will result. We never know when or where the next great discovery will be made. It could be what you did/saw/etc.
With all this said, he is an opportunity. Even though VORTEX 2 is officially over, the SMART radars were out today collecting data on the supercells that moved near Concordia, Kansas. This data collection was not part of VORTEX 2 and therefore did not include any mobile mesonet data - only radar data. If you or anyone you know was chasing this storm, we'd be interested in hearing your accounts of what you saw. We would also be interested in any video and/or mobile mesonet data that people might have collected and would be willing to share.
By no means is this list exhaustive. Nor am I foolish enough to think I am the first to suggest these things. I don't pretend to have thought all of this up. What I am willing to do is act as a liaison/intermediary to help put people in contact with one another.
Feel free to contact me at my email address: [email protected]
In another thread I was asked my thoughts on how chasers and scientists can work together. Here are a couple of my initial ideas and then an opportunity.
1. One of the things I'm currently working on has more to do with the forecast people would do before the chase, but is important nonetheless. In the coming weeks (sometime in July I hope), we hope to launch a new NSSL WRF webpage with some new graphics and products. We will also include some survey questions to help get feedback about how the NSSL WRF is doing and what people think of the new products. Please take a look at these new products and give your feedback. It will help us develop new visualization techniques and improve the quality of the model.
2. If you have a mobile mesonet strapped to your car, please consider sharing this data with your local NWS office. Ideally, spotter network would find a way to include your mobile mesonet data with the position icon. This information is absolutely invaluable in the warning decision process. Being able to see the ground circulation of the mesocyclone, seeing the outflow surge ahead of the storm, etc is incredibly useful in realtime operations.
3. After a chase in which you see some really interesting features, please document it to the best of your ability. Then send this to someone in the research community and/or operational community. If nothing else, send it to me. We never know when something like this can come in handy.
4. Same with interesting video. A picture is worth a thousand words.
5. Sharing mobile mesonet data after the fact can be extremely beneficial. I'm currently working on a study of the 1 May 2010 High Risk tornado bust. I'd love to have high resolution (spatial and temporal) mobile mesonet data from AR on this day. The key here is to put all this information into a single repository so that someone who is interested in doing a study knows where to find it.
6. If you see something interesting don't be afraid to contact someone and let them know. If for no other reason, let me know and I'll try to put you in contact with someone who is involved with studying that phenomenon. Be willing to work with the scientist or local NWS office in investigating the phenomenon. You never know if a conference paper or something of the sort will result. We never know when or where the next great discovery will be made. It could be what you did/saw/etc.
With all this said, he is an opportunity. Even though VORTEX 2 is officially over, the SMART radars were out today collecting data on the supercells that moved near Concordia, Kansas. This data collection was not part of VORTEX 2 and therefore did not include any mobile mesonet data - only radar data. If you or anyone you know was chasing this storm, we'd be interested in hearing your accounts of what you saw. We would also be interested in any video and/or mobile mesonet data that people might have collected and would be willing to share.
By no means is this list exhaustive. Nor am I foolish enough to think I am the first to suggest these things. I don't pretend to have thought all of this up. What I am willing to do is act as a liaison/intermediary to help put people in contact with one another.
Feel free to contact me at my email address: [email protected]
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