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Roof Racks To Protect From Hail; Thoughts? Suggestions?

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Greetings... wanted to ask those who have roof racks for hail protection. I've seen many vehicles that have these that extend over the windshield area and was curious about the costs, where you had it done, if they are removable in the off-season, etc? Also would be curious to hear your reviews and thoughts of it; did it hold up well, how big of hail does it hold up to, how is driving with it? Etc.

I am taking in all thoughts of those that have these. Certainly would welcome pictures to show how they're attached/installed.

I am in the process of purchasing a new vehicle, and I am considering a few options. I will likely put some Line-X coating over the horizontal surfaces to start, but am giving some thought to the roof rack idea and wanted to get some thoughts and/or suggestions.

Thanks all in advance!
 
From 2015-2021, I used a rig based on wire shelving panels mounted on an aluminum bar stock frame. In 2022 I rebuilt the rig with galvanized hardware cloth (also called "hail cloth" not-coincidentally) which is much lighter in weight. It uses most of the original aluminum beam framing from the first rig. All of the hardware are things you can get at any home improvement store (aluminum bar stock, 1/4 bolts and fender washers, etc)

With the Subaru, I attached the rig to the roof rack using u-clamps. With my current Toyota, I'm using the roof rack mounting studs (1/4"bolts).

I can install the rig in about an hour, and take it down in a little less. The design is pretty simple: just make an aluminum frame for the hardware cloth, attach the cloth to the frame with zip ties. The most technical part of my setup is the rollers I use that allow the rear liftgate to open under the rear guards.

The hardware cloth survived 4.5-inch hail in Nebraska. Be aware that this material is really rough to work with before you get it installed (it will scratch you up good if you're not careful). Unrolling it it the worst part.

I have a few photos here:

 
Greetings... wanted to ask those who have roof racks for hail protection. I've seen many vehicles that have these that extend over the windshield area and was curious about the costs, where you had it done, if they are removable in the off-season, etc? Also would be curious to hear your reviews and thoughts of it; did it hold up well, how big of hail does it hold up to, how is driving with it? Etc.

I threw together one out of plastic tubing before heading out to chase a few years ago. As a prototype, I just threw on plastic mesh thinking I would eventually change the frame and mesh to metal later, but it actually has worked well enough that I just left it and have used it for a few years. I take the whole thing off and put it in my storage unit in the off season.

Here's details on the guard:
Storm Chasing Hail Guard Prototype — John Huntington

My car has a bunch of pretty big dents from Happy TX a couple years ago but my windshield survived that storm so I think the plastic worked pretty well in golf ball sized hail. I don't expect it to work in baseball or anything.
Great Plains Storm Chase 2023 — John Huntington
(Scroll down to June 11 for the video)
 
going to build one......based on Eric Nguyen............bike rack and Aluminum Square Tubing...........metal supermarket.....and yakima-bike rack.........then put weather stuff.............on top. its that simple...........for yakima.......make sure to get ........clamps,locks and all parts needed for your rack.

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Sorry all for the delayed responses... I have been swamped with about two million things since this post. I did purchase my new vehicle, my #1 choice, the 2023 Subaru Ascent. She's now seen 6 tornadoes in her first three days out, so she's off a hot start. :)

@Dan Robinson ; I would love to pick your brain. I am very interested in that 'hail cloth' idea. I would love to have something that's more lightweight, and given your testing of it in Nebraska back in April (the event that retired my Forester), it would suffice beautifully. I am doing a Line-X layer on the hood and roof at the end of May, but that won't keep the windshield safe (I asked about Line-X on the windshield, but apparently it would block my view of storms haha j/k).

I guess the starting question for you, Dan, would be where did you get the hail cloth? I would probably need to hire out the framing to someone as I have no skills/tools to do that kind of job myself. I don't have the MacGyver in me to rig up something like that. Ideally, I would love to run support beams from the hood near the windshield (as opposed to all the way up front as to keep them out of the shot as much as possible). But also make it removable when I don't need it in the off-season.

But thank you all for your suggestions, and please keep them coming... I imagine I will tackle this project after the heart of this season concludes, so just trying to skirt the hailcores til I get the Line-X done and will start eying a way to keep the windshield safe after.
 
The hardware cloth is in the fencing section of any Lowe's/Home Depot/Menards. You can get pretty much everything for a hail guard rig at those stores. The aluminum bar stock is easy to work with - it is structurally strong, but you can cut it easily with a hacksaw blade and drill bolt holes with a normal bit. The hardware cloth can be cut with either a hacksaw or wire cutters. Again, the hardware cloth is a significant scratch hazard. I zip-tied some paneling trim pieces on the exposed edges of it to reduce that risk when carrying and installing the finished guard pieces.
 
I'm now considering rebuilding my setup into something retractable/foldable. The gas mileage hit on my current vehicle with the guards on is atrocious (13 mpg when driving south into strong southerlies on Sunday). The cumulative fuel cost would be more than most window replacements after 3 or 4 seasons of that!
 
I'm now considering rebuilding my setup into something retractable/foldable. The gas mileage hit on my current vehicle with the guards on is atrocious (13 mpg when driving south into strong southerlies on Sunday). The cumulative fuel cost would be more than most window replacements after 3 or 4 seasons of that!
Right now, that's my biggest concern... my Ascent, which proved to be amazing on this last trip, was already a small hit to my MPGs compared to my Forester, certainly nothing I wasn't expecting given the larger size, but I don't wanna make that a bigger hit. I've been looking (and stealing pics, sorry guys haha) of various rigs I've come across and am making quite the collection of visuals to help me decide how best to go about this.

What I've learned, and some of it may be re-hashing what's listed above is this...

1. My biggest goal is the windshield... I am having the roof and hood covered in Line-X, so those two areas are not high on my priority list. Because my windshield needs calibration every time it is replaced, I am trying to avoid replacing it as often as possible. I do have non-insurance coverage for non-hail breaks (i.e. rocks, animals), and obviously I'd like to NOT claim out my windshield as much as possible (I have my reasons for this).

2. I've seen several vehicle with support rods holding up various covers, either connected closer to the windshield under the hood or all the way to the front. If I were to do this, I would prefer as close to the windshield as possible to avoid having those support beams in my shots.

3. The extension of the protection I just want 6-12" inches beyond where the windshield ends to give some protection to angled hail, particularly if I am driving. Anything that's overly large (i.e. 2.5"+) I probably would remain stationary for.

4. Gas mileage is a big factor. As Dan mentioned above, the cost/benefit ratio is a factor. Protecting my windshield should not be more expensive than replacing every couple years. My initial, quick and dirty research indicates it would run me (out-of-pocket) between $1000-$1500 for windshield replacement plus recalibration for my Ascent.

5. I would LOVE something I can throw up fairly quickly and even do so in the field. Even with the support rods on the front, I would NOT want this to be a permanent (or even semi-permanent) feature of my car. The idea that I could deploy this within a few minutes (i.e. a gas stop) and run with it a few hours on a chase day, then "fold it up" and stow it away would be amazing.

5a. I've briefly (with some jest) considered a cover, a literal sheet of foam or other material, that I would literally toss over the windshield to ride out a hail core. Obviously this would eliminate being mobile and I'd lose all view looking forward (I'd shoot/watch out side windows), but in a pinch, right haha

6. Obviously the best choice is just to avoid the big hail. And there is certainly a reasonable expectation to be able to do that, but unfortunately this is not always possible. I also don't really want to be one of those paranoid hail-fearers, particularly as a guy who actually LOVES experiencing hail. I expect some cut-back as there isn't nearly as big a prize as there once was for plunging into hail cores, but I still do like me some hail.

@Dan Robinson I'd be very interested in your process as you move forward with your idea. I was very intrigued at the idea of the "cloth" over the metal grates I've seen on a lot, and that seems like a good place to start for eliminating some weight, thus less MPG decline. I envision something that could rest on the hood when not deployed, then extend up and over the windshield with the push of a button. I dunno... mechanics and tools and, ya know, building shit, are not my strong suits haha
 
6. Obviously the best choice is just to avoid the big hail. And there is certainly a reasonable expectation to be able to do that, but unfortunately this is not always possible. I also don't really want to be one of those paranoid hail-fearers, particularly as a guy who actually LOVES experiencing hail. I expect some cut-back as there isn't nearly as big a prize as there once was for plunging into hail cores, but I still do like me some hail.
I've been following this thread since the beginning and just wanted to chime in here. Since my chase vehicle is also my daily driver, I've unfortunately become one of those paranoid hail-fearers, despite the fact that I also like to experience large hail. It's probably one of the most visceral experiences that nature can provide while staying relatively safe from bodily harm. I'm hopeful that in the next few years I'll be able to have a dedicated chase rig, but in the mean time, threads like this are really informative.
 
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