AP pulls chaser's tornado video

[MatthewCarman]

Found this more detailed story, according to the story Dan Robinson - another fellow ST'er - was the one who outed Andy.



With both storm chasers being stormtrack members, I'm surprised that neither have chimed in. Andy has logged in since this post was made, obviously he knows it exist and if the video is legit then I would think he would defend himself on here, who knows.

People would just tell him what he did was wrong and he already knows that. Everyone has been saying what he did was wrong. No need to beat a dead horse. It would be nice to see him admit to what he did and apologize but he is not doing that and I would be suprised if he did.

 

[Joey Ketcham]

People would just tell him what he did was wrong and he already knows that. Everyone has been saying what he did was wrong. No need to beat a dead horse. It would be nice to see him admit to what he did and apologize but he is not doing that and I would be suprised if he did.

If he's publicly saying in an article put out by the AP that the video is legit, then you would think that he would be on here defending it. I don't know, I would just expect some sort of response from him, whether it be an apology or kiss my *** or something, not just silence.

 

[Maggie Kahman]

If he's publicly saying in an article put out by the AP that the video is legit, then you would think that he would be on here defending it. I don't know, I would just expect some sort of response from him, whether it be an apology or kiss my *** or something, not just silence.

I have been told that silence is agreement...

 

[Mike Peregrine]

Honestly - and this is not going to be a plug for any of the several entities doing this these days - the agreement/licensing angle on selling footage is complex enough that unless you are willing to pay an attorney to draft a set of licenses for different circumstances, and then educate yourself on how to negotiate, and then feel willing to pull off successful negotiations with the media every time you have video to bring to market, you're better off finding someone with experience in this to represent you. They will get more money for you in the long run than if you try to do it yourself, even after paying commissions.

Speaking from the chaser perspective, I want to see tornadoes and get pictures of them. I don't have the time or inclination to mess around with all the other stuff, and I've worked in the legal field since 1992, helping draft who knows how many agreements at this point. It is totally worth it to locate and use an agent to market this with you, and fortunately there are several chasers who understand the whole agent thing.

I'm not selling video at all these days, so I'm not signed with anyone. I've taken a couple years where I'm just enjoying chasing again (and you can tell the quality of my video, which has pretty much regressed back to sucky - or maybe it was never anything but). Anyway, if you really want to sell video, I still feel like it's a good idea to find trustworthy representation to market it for you - it's a big load off.

This will automatically mean that you'll have to start paying closer attention to quality, though. If you're really into the news angle, you would also have to pay attention to time, which was my least favorite aspect of the gig. It used to force people to leave a chase early to try and scoop the other chasers. Now, with the media market being dead, it's more about producing a quality product. The best video has a better chance of being purchased later. I don't think you even have to worry so much anymore about having ten different angles on every storm. Production companies may want more than one angle anyway.

By the way - even though YouTube is the leader, a person can post video to Vimeo in true HD (once you learn the export settings) ... and you can lock it down so it cannot be downloaded by other people. There are still ways of capturing it, but it lessens the risk. Also - don't forget to plaster your videos with your copyright - and preferably a website name that people can go to if they want to find the real deal. I personally am seeing the copyright thing a little differently than I used to. I think that file sharing is HERE TO STAY. It is NOT going away. People will always figure out ways of doing it ... so as an industry, we would be better off finding ways of working with the new market than against it. But that's just me.

 

[MatthewCarman]

If he's publicly saying in an article put out by the AP that the video is legit, then you would think that he would be on here defending it. I don't know, I would just expect some sort of response from him, whether it be an apology or kiss my *** or something, not just silence.

All it would do is cause a big arguement or a fight if he did come on here and defend himself. He clearly has stated according to him we are all wrong about the video so he is not going to admit what he did or agree with us about any of this. Once he posted the video was legit and we are all jelouse of him here members would start giving him a hard time or attacking him etc and it would turn into a ugly mess. Stress is not good for anyone and that is all that would result from it. The last thing we need at ST is more noise and we have beaten to many dead horses over the last few years that it get's boring.

So I can see why he is not posting in this thread. I know I wouldin't (Unless I was apologizing) if I had hundreds of members upset with me and ready to give me a peace of thier mind. Think about it.

 

[Joey Ketcham]

All it would do is cause a big arguement or a fight if he did come on here and defend himself. He clearly has stated according to him we are all wrong about the video so he is not going to admit what he did or agree with us about any of this. Once he posted the video was legit and we are all jelouse of him here members would start giving him a hard time or attacking him etc and it would turn into a ugly mess. Stress is not good for anyone and that is all that would result from it. The last thing we need at ST is more noise and we have beaten to many dead horses over the last few years that it get's boring.

So I can see why he is not posting in this thread. I know I wouldin't (Unless I was apologizing) if I had hundreds of members upset with me and ready to give me a peace of thier mind. Think about it.

Bah. I would at least like to hear his story before being the judge, jury and executor and hanging him out to dry. The video obviously is the same, but it's only fair to give him a chance to respond and if he's claiming the video is legit than why doesn't he stand by that and defend himself? I certainly know I would. There is nothing wrong with me wanting him to respond, in fact I find it rather odd that he hasn't. I'm a person who likes to give people a chance to tell their side of the story before I tighten the noose around their neck, disagree with that all you want, we can just agree to disagree.