Anybody have pics of TIV2?

[Sean Casey]

Hey all,

I need to collect pics of TIV2, so if anyone has some and would be willing to let us use them in promo material, I'd greatly appreciate it. Shots with weather in the background would be nice, though that may be rare as TIV2 had major problems and was out chasing 15% of the time.

We will credit the photo and I'll send a TIV t-shirt (if you want one) as a "thank you".

Sean

 

[Dennis Sherrod]

http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17602

 

[Jason Boggs]

Let me see here...You want these photos for a promo, and all you're willing to give up is a t-shirt as a thank you?

Refer to the post above from Dennis

 

[Tim Stoecklein]

Wow guys, what's wrong with just ignoring the request if you don't agree with the terms? Now I remember why I check Stormtrack less and less frequently....

Good luck Sean.

 

[Shane Adams]

Wow guys, what's wrong with just ignoring the request if you don't agree with the terms? Now I remember why I check Stormtrack less and less frequently....

Good luck Sean.

I'm glad you feel that way....could you pay for my gas in 2009? Thanks bro.

 

[David Drummond]

Wow guys, what's wrong with just ignoring the request if you don't agree with the terms? Now I remember why I check Stormtrack less and less frequently....

Good luck Sean.

What's wrong with ignoring a post instead of replying if you don't agree with what they are saying?

 

[Mike Umscheid]

I'm not entirely sure how copyright laws work to the "T", but TIV/TIV2 would probably fit in the category of "recognizable property", thus licensing any images with the TIV in it might not be as trivial as one might believe. I know you need a "location release" for shooting images of or within recognizable locations if one wishes to profit from the images. I think Eric Nguyen may have run into this trying to license his incredible Mulvane image with the mansion in the foreground. I think a location release was required by one of the major stock agencies for that shot just because his foreground had that mansion in it. At any rate, it's something to think about.

 

[Shane Adams]

I'm not entirely sure how copyright laws work to the "T", but TIV/TIV2 would probably fit in the category of "recognizable property", thus licensing any images with the TIV in it might not be as trivial as one might believe. I know you need a "location release" for shooting images of or within recognizable locations if one wishes to profit from the images. I think Eric Nguyen may have run into this trying to license his incredible Mulvane image with the mansion in the foreground. I think a location release was required by one of the major stock agencies for that shot just because his foreground had that mansion in it. At any rate, it's something to think about.

In that case, any shot of a human being would fall under the same category, because everyone is recognizable to many people. The question is, what constitutes "recognizable"? How many people, if polled, would have to raise their hands and say "Yeah I've heard of that" before you'd have to get special permission? I understand the TIV is all the rage in our little corner of the Universe, but it's not the Statue of Liberty.

Aside: It's nice to see some former mods (now free of that label) being able to stretch their wings again on here and say what's on their minds.

 

[Mike Umscheid]

In that case, any shot of a human being would fall under the same catagory, because everyone is recognizable to many people.

Yep. And those are called "personal" release forms. Again, this is for images one wishes to make money off of for licensing purposes. You need consent from the person and/or owner of property.

 

[Ryan McGinnis]

I'm not entirely sure how copyright laws work to the "T", but TIV/TIV2 would probably fit in the category of "recognizable property", thus licensing any images with the TIV in it might not be as trivial as one might believe. I know you need a "location release" for shooting images of or within recognizable locations if one wishes to profit from the images. I think Eric Nguyen may have run into this trying to license his incredible Mulvane image with the mansion in the foreground. I think a location release was required by one of the major stock agencies for that shot just because his foreground had that mansion in it. At any rate, it's something to think about.

I suspect a great majority of licensing situations for such property would be for editorial usage, which requires no releases of any kind. If anyone wanted to put the TIV2 into an advertisement, they'd most likely want to get Sean's property release. Dunno how the courts would look at it, but image buyers tend to be VERY conservative when it comes to that sort of thing, never wanting to test the waters. Ultimately, the person doing the publishing is on the hook for securing all releases; all the photographer/vendor has to do is be honest about whether or not it possesses the required releases. All this, BTW, falls under state and local privacy torts, and is not related to copyright law.

As for Sean's asking for freebies -- well, I'm not going to bite, but I'm rarely insulted by people who ask for freebies. In a free market where probably half the people out there will say yes, you're kinda being ignorant if you don't at least *try* to get an image for almost nothing. The only downside is that you might offend a photographer whose photo you absoloutely need. If you asked, say, David La Chapelle for a freebie, he'd probably have his secretary put you on a list of clueless morons with whom to never speak to again. But none of us here are quite at that level, so there's little harm in trying.

 

[Mike Hollingshead]

I'm not entirely sure how copyright laws work to the "T", but TIV/TIV2 would probably fit in the category of "recognizable property", thus licensing any images with the TIV in it might not be as trivial as one might believe. I know you need a "location release" for shooting images of or within recognizable locations if one wishes to profit from the images. I think Eric Nguyen may have run into this trying to license his incredible Mulvane image with the mansion in the foreground. I think a location release was required by one of the major stock agencies for that shot just because his foreground had that mansion in it. At any rate, it's something to think about.

Yeah but it changes nothing anyway. If they want your images, they'd then have to give you such a release...and pay you. Anyone giving it up for nothing is just being had for the sake of a moment on tv or wherever, and a t-shirt. It's pretty funny though, considering the amount of discussion on here lately on this very sort of thing. This time it's not really the media asking for freebies though. Evidently all the shows are broke now-a-days. I'm broke and I'd still feel like a tool asking for free stuff to do any sort of promotion.

 

[Shane Adams]

As for Sean's asking for freebies -- well, I'm not going to bite, but I'm rarely insulted by people who ask for freebies. In a free market where probably half the people out there will say yes, you're kinda being ignorant if you don't at least *try* to get an image for almost nothing. The only downside is that you might offend a photographer whose photo you absoloutely need. If you asked, say, David La Chapelle for a freebie, he'd probably have his secretary put you on a list of clueless morons with whom to never speak to again. But none of us here are quite at that level, so there's little harm in trying.

No harm in trying, agreed. Maybe it's just me, but when you're looking to get for free what you know is worth money, seems the last place you'd go would be to the club house. I'd try the back alleyways first.

 

[Bill Hark]

Unfortunately, almost all of my pics including ones with storms are of the TIV 1. Here is a HD video still of the TIV2 from May 29 as everybody was racing south. I was briefly caught between the TIV1 and 2. The resolution is not as good as a regular digital camera pic (better than SD video) but may be useful especially for web stuff. I may have a slightly higher res version of this image if you need it.

http://www.harkphoto.com/052908tiv2.jpg

Bill Hark

 

[Ryan McGinnis]

What's wrong with ignoring a post instead of replying if you don't agree with what they are saying?

 

[Chris White]

It was on the move, poor lighting, let me know if your interested and can provide big non watermarked version. I think I have more of that day as well possibly no wx in the background. I can make the powerlines disappear(or you could just crop it) but, I can't photoshop the TIV2 to be driving down the correct lane of the highway. My XXL custom edition signed t-shirt would also require a signed boxed DVD set of season 1.

Thanks for your consideration.