Darren Addy
EF5
I was hoping that someone "in the know" might reply to this set of questions regarding radiosonde launches in the U.S. Partly, I suspect that some of the information that I am finding via Google may not be up-to-date, so I was wondering if anyone could clarify a few things.
First I'm wondering about the radiosondes themselves.
Is this replacement process completed or still ongoing? Is the GPS used only in mapping the data received, or is it also possibly useful in the recovery of the radiosonde itself? (If helpful in recovery, would it be possible to crowd-source the recovery and reuse of radiosondes by making the process available to the public?) Is the data from a GPS-equipped radiosonde superior in some way to that from the older radiosonde's?
I notice that sometimes, local weather station(s) will launch an additional radiosonde - usually in mid-afternoon on a potentially volatile day. I was wondering about the procedure by which that is done: Is it at the request of the SPC, or can it be done solely at the discretion of the local NWS? Is there a particular set of information that is being sought, or a particular set of circumstances that leads to these "auxillary" radiosonde launches?
During Vortex 2, I noticed that the SPC would note recent information derived from a V2 launched radiosonde. Obviously, a V2-launched radiosonde was not at a standard launch station or at the standard launch time, but presumably is still providing valuable information to Day 1 forecasters.
In addition, while reading papers like Thomas M. Graziano and Toby N. Carlson's 1987 paper on "A Statistical Evaluation of Lid Strength on Deep Convection" I noticed that (like radar locations) the radiosonde locations can have an effect on the selection of storms being studied for a particular inquiry. For example, the paper above states:
Would it not be true, that if there were more radiosonde launching stations, or more radiosonde launches per day that there would be a larger set of events from which to draw datapoints in research? (fewer gaps in the location of events that could be included in a particular study)?
I realize that the 0000 and 1200 UTC launches are used worldwide to get a synchronous snapshot of the upper air, but would there be local forecasting or research benefits to (for example) doing a set of 1800 UTC launch of radiosondes across the part of the country where severe storms were a possibility (for example, in the Spring?). Or might there be a local forecasting or research benefit to creating a mobile radiosonde unit, similar to a mobile mesonet (but obviously more spread out) that could be deployed around any particular geographical area of interest that would supplement the "nailed down" station data?
In a time when budget cuts are being considered, I realize that very little of this will be possible with existing funding, but it seems to me that if grants can be given to huge projects like Vortex 2, that science grants might also be written/given to improve the resolution of our upper air data, at least during "Prime Time" tornado season.
If higher resolution (either in space or in time) upper air data is not worthwhile or necessary, I'm wondering why it is not.
First I'm wondering about the radiosondes themselves.
- source: http://www.ua.nws.noaa.gov/factsheet.htmThe current radiosonde tracking systems are 1950's vintage and the data processing computer is a 1980's IBM PC/XT. These systems are obsolete and are increasingly difficult to maintain. NWS has begun a program to replace the ground systems at all NWS stations with a new GPS radiosonde system.
Is this replacement process completed or still ongoing? Is the GPS used only in mapping the data received, or is it also possibly useful in the recovery of the radiosonde itself? (If helpful in recovery, would it be possible to crowd-source the recovery and reuse of radiosondes by making the process available to the public?) Is the data from a GPS-equipped radiosonde superior in some way to that from the older radiosonde's?
Is the number of stations still correct?Currently, 70 radiosonde stations are distributed across the continental United States. Radiosondes are launched from these stations twice daily, just prior to 0000 and 1200 UTC.
I notice that sometimes, local weather station(s) will launch an additional radiosonde - usually in mid-afternoon on a potentially volatile day. I was wondering about the procedure by which that is done: Is it at the request of the SPC, or can it be done solely at the discretion of the local NWS? Is there a particular set of information that is being sought, or a particular set of circumstances that leads to these "auxillary" radiosonde launches?
During Vortex 2, I noticed that the SPC would note recent information derived from a V2 launched radiosonde. Obviously, a V2-launched radiosonde was not at a standard launch station or at the standard launch time, but presumably is still providing valuable information to Day 1 forecasters.
In addition, while reading papers like Thomas M. Graziano and Toby N. Carlson's 1987 paper on "A Statistical Evaluation of Lid Strength on Deep Convection" I noticed that (like radar locations) the radiosonde locations can have an effect on the selection of storms being studied for a particular inquiry. For example, the paper above states:
I'm wondering if someone could describe the relative value of real sounding data, as opposed to model sounding data and whether model sounding data might be improved by a "higher resolution" set of radiosonde data.In order to assure a reliable correlation with radiosonde data, only those events lying within a radius of 2.5% latitude (275 km) of a radiosonde station and within 2.5 h of 0000 or 1200 UTC were tabulated.
Would it not be true, that if there were more radiosonde launching stations, or more radiosonde launches per day that there would be a larger set of events from which to draw datapoints in research? (fewer gaps in the location of events that could be included in a particular study)?
I realize that the 0000 and 1200 UTC launches are used worldwide to get a synchronous snapshot of the upper air, but would there be local forecasting or research benefits to (for example) doing a set of 1800 UTC launch of radiosondes across the part of the country where severe storms were a possibility (for example, in the Spring?). Or might there be a local forecasting or research benefit to creating a mobile radiosonde unit, similar to a mobile mesonet (but obviously more spread out) that could be deployed around any particular geographical area of interest that would supplement the "nailed down" station data?
In a time when budget cuts are being considered, I realize that very little of this will be possible with existing funding, but it seems to me that if grants can be given to huge projects like Vortex 2, that science grants might also be written/given to improve the resolution of our upper air data, at least during "Prime Time" tornado season.
If higher resolution (either in space or in time) upper air data is not worthwhile or necessary, I'm wondering why it is not.