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3-25-07 FCST: TX/OK/NE/IA/MO/IL

The 12Z NCEP WRF (NMM) was certainly a bit farther to the west than the latest 00Z run, which seems to put the best tornado/supercell potential more toward SE Minnesota, rather than SW/SC Minnesota.... I agree with Scott's post above, which states that the terrain in this area is pretty bad for chasing.

The event itself still looks quite interesting, though. Upper jet dynamics are quite favorable for ample ascent. A decent upper southwesterly jet over IA (on the eastern flank of the upper wave) by 18Z Sunday puts southern/SE Minnesota in the left-front exit region. A slight easterly component to the surface winds help out with shear in the lowest few kms. Also, the WRF-NMM also wants to produce CAPEs to nearly 2500 over the IA/MN/WI border by 00Z. The GFS is much less, but I'll claim that that's simply a low-CAPE bias in the GFS. I do like that both the NCEP's operational WRF and GFS seem to be coming together pretty well, as far as cyclone and front placement go.

Problems with this might be lack of instability, with the potential for morning clouds and rain from whatever develops tomorrow night to the south. Also, it's March 25, and we're talking about the MN/IA/WI area...so it could be difficult to actually get low 60s dewpoints this far north (though the models seem to certainly want to). And you can't forget 3/29/98, when an F3 tornado wreaked havoc on St. Peter, MN.

As of now, I'd target Albert Lea, MN and plan to move east into the bluff country (yikes) with the advancing front throughout the afternoon. It's still pretty far out though, so a lot can change...!
 
Just looked at the SPC Day 2, and the ETA and this looks like a perfect mod risk setup in the worst possible chase area. Right now the best possible setup is if it fires further west. Once you get near the Mississippi River, there are only a couple crossing points and then its all hills and trees. Your chasing in valleys for the most part.
 
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Things seem to be coming together pretty nicely for Sunday afternoon. Wind fields are nice, and moisture is seasonably impressive.

Still a few model runs to look at, but right now it looks like Jeremy Ludin and I will be heading towards the Waterloo IA area Sunday morning.
 
Something to remember in WI is the Wildcat Mountains and they possible extend into MN so anyone chasing in these states are not going to have good terrain for seeing/chasing tornadoes. According to the SPC the best area is in NE IA and SW WI and SE MN and that is not the best chasing territory.

NWS only has a 30% chance of storms for me tommorow but I am in the slight risk. Where do you all expect the dryline to be and is there a chance we could get storms initiating on the dry line in Iowa?
 
Are we adding MN and WI to this thread or are we keeping them separate??

Anyway, I will be out tomorrow as well and I still expecting this MOD risk to encompass a little more of Southern MN and Northern IA. I plan to meet up with whoever is all chasing tomorrow at my house in Northern IA and probably heading out to the NE a bit from there. Early thoughts are something like between Osage IA and Austin MN along HWY 218 maybe a bit further E of that but we'll see by tomorrow morning.
 
Portions of southern MN, Northeast IA and southwest Iowa do have good chase terrain esp. if you consider the chase terrain that exists from near Minneapolis north :D The best risk for isolated supercells and tornados would be in the southwest portion of the moderate risk and even back into portions of the slight risk area from I-90 south during the early stages of this severe weather event (before the storms congeal into a squalline). I plan on targeting an area to the southeast of Albert Lea MN. Things could change though and it would be nice if the SPC moved the moderate risk area further to the south and west :D but I'll take what I can get ;)
 
So Interstate I-80 in central IA is not a good area for severe storms then?
 
alright, good, atleast i know now i'm not going crazy because atleast a couple other people are talking about south central Minnesota. I was thinking of Owatonna-Faribault-Rochester, somewhere in there to start off.
 
I am really thrown off on tomorrow.. New 21z SREF continues the southern trend with the severe threat.. I wouldn't be surprised to see the moderate risk swing 150 miles south tomorrow.. I plan to only drive slightly north, maybe not move at all.. Cape of 1500, 45 Kts of Shear, SCP's and SIG Tor are up there... I'm not sure why the outlook didn't get moved earlier, but i think it will tomorrow unless something changes over night... I'm hoping for a good chase.. Ready to try some new equipment...

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2007032421/SREF_prob_supercomp_1__f024.gif

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2007032421/SREF_prob_sigtor_1__f027.gif

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/..._10000__&cur_dir=2007032421/&gifs_dir=./gifs/
 
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Brandon,

I agree with the severe threat extending further southward. We will start out from home in Dekalb and mos likely head a little northwest. Happy chasing, should be fun.
 
After looking at all the new data that's come in over the last few runs, we're still thinking northern IA is where to be. We'll be heading towards Waterloo in the morning, and probably up towards Charles City or New Hampton IA after that.

Overall I love the deep moisture, and decent instability for this time of year.

Good luck to all who go out! :)
 
Definitely will be on the watch on Sunday. Would be nice to have it shift south. Chasing is easy off the I-90 corridor just north of here in South WI and most of North IL south. One can only hope it turns out to be good esp. on a Sunday.
The only thing I am worried about is timing. If things get going too late around here it wont be too good even though it stays a little lighter later now.
Should be interesting.
 
I am really thrown off on tomorrow.. New 21z SREF continues the southern trend with the severe threat.. I wouldn't be surprised to see the moderate risk swing 150 miles south tomorrow.. I plan to only drive slightly north, maybe not move at all.. Cape of 1500, 45 Kts of Shear, SCP's and SIG Tor are up there... I'm not sure why the outlook didn't get moved earlier, but i think it will tomorrow unless something changes over night... I'm hoping for a good chase.. Ready to try some new equipment...

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2007032421/SREF_prob_supercomp_1__f024.gif

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2007032421/SREF_prob_sigtor_1__f027.gif

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/..._10000__&cur_dir=2007032421/&gifs_dir=./gifs/


Brandon - There is no trigger in Illinois tomorrow. There may be instability in central Illinois, but there's nothing really to do anything with it, all the dynamics are up north which is why the risk area is up there. Unless you are planning on getting something along the wf in central IL, I really don't see much of anything in this area until at least well after dark, and even then it should be far northern IL. The low and all vertical velocities are well up in northern Iowa, so there is really no lift to speak of down in this area. I'd love to be wrong, but I think that's why you aren't getting the risk area you wanted on the day 2, and probably won't be waking up to either on the day 1. :( :( Like I said, I would love to be wrong, but I don't think this is an Illinois chase day. Anything in this area will likely be overnite leftovers in the northern portion of the state.
 
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