Bill Hark
EF5
There have been reports of severe weather across the Plains including one tornado in extreme northwestern Nebraska. Post your chase reports here.
Bill Hark
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Bill Hark
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Stifora said the storm could have been what's called a cold-air funnel cloud.
"On occasion they will touch the ground. When they do, they don't last too long on the ground. If they do touch the ground, of course, they can do some damage.''
I think the news team from that CTV station needs to come down to the Midwest next May and get a REAL :shock: sampling of what a funnel cloud and what a tornado is really like... :shock:
A funnel cloud can be just as damaging as a fully develped tornado. The rotation on the ground under a funnel cloud can be just as devastating as a F0-F1 tornado. If there was damage on the ground, it can either be due to the torandic rotation of the air mass surrounding the funnel cloud.
Actually, technically.... A funnel cloud can't do any damage. Once it's doing damage on the ground it's no longer a funnel cloud but a full fledged tornado, even if you can't see condensation to the ground.
The rotation on the ground under a funnel cloud can be just as devastating as a F0-F1 tornado.
actually its not blurry lines just is what it is. This arguement is better served in weather and chasing but getting "technical" is what we do. Chalk it up to "learn something new everyday" and move on. If rotation is on the ground under a funnel cloud it has now become a tornado... PeriodGuys (and Gals),
Let's not get technical and all whipped up in a froth about a couple of loosely used terms, "funnel cloud" and "tornado".
My point in a previous post was the folks in Alberta probably had very limited, if any, exposure to severe weather. They had limited knowledge and understanding of the dynamics of severe weather. And their fruitless efforts in explaining the storms shows that lack.
They don't have the amount of exposure like we have in the Midwest in May-June. That would be like if we listen to people in California talking about their daily earthquakes, shakes on the 5.0 scale, damage reports, etc. And if we try to talk about earthquakes in the Midwest, we would speak like it was a "shake from Hell".
Granted, there is a blurry line when it comes to defining what is a funnel cloud and what a tornado is. Each storm is different from others in several aspects. One storm could have a high funnel cloud but no rotation on the ground. While another one could have rotation and debris cloud on the ground but no visible funnel cloud. Another could say that a funnel cloud is just an early stage in tornado development. This can go on and on until we turn blue in the face in the middle of July!!
Let's put this silly argument about funnel clouds and tornadoes to rest! OK?? 8)
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