• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Video Editing - MPEG 1/2/4

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mike Hollingshead
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Mike Hollingshead

It seems anymore, everything is some form of mpeg and it sounds like it's generally a bad idea to edit mpeg. For instance premiere pro 1.5 would capture and automatically transcode my HDV clips to a version of cineform avi. This worked fine. Then I had capture issues with the HV20 and wound up having to use windows movie maker to capture. I then had to strip the mpeg file out of the dvr-ms container. Only to then see just how much premiere pro did not like to edit those directly. Apply any sort of filter(saturation/lightness/whatever) and it would get clunky on playback in the timeline.

I could deal with all that. But what I couldn't end up dealing with was the banding issues I got for editing an mpeg directly like that. I went back and did the same clip, but let premiere pro transcode it to cineform avi and same editing and no banding issues. So I see editing mpeg is just not a great idea.

But everything today is captured in some form of mpeg. What are people doing to edit these correctly? I fear spending too much time making edited down timelines for chases if I'll simply have to redo them in some other format later.

Was about to upgraded to CS5, since 1.5 won't recognize cineform intermediate files. But I now see to do so I'd need a 64 bit version of windows! God I hate video editing crap.

Anyway, this post is half wanting suggestions and half pointing out the route I think I'm going.

It seems likely this is the best route to take...

http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/

Use that to convert clips to cineform and then plug those into the cheaper version of Vegas(cause I'm not spending $300 for CS5 upgrade if I also then have to get windows 64 bit too).

Hollywood producers rely on CineForm file formats for their editing and archive workflows because CineForm offers:

  • the highest visual fidelity achievable
  • the fastest real-time editing performance
  • cross-platform compatibility with all major editing tools: Adobe CSx, Final Cut Studio, Avid Media Composer, and Sony Vegas
You see, camera formats are designed for recording, not editing. With Neo Scene you will convert your difficult-to-edit HDV, AVCHD, Canon 5D Mk II / 7D or T2i camera footage to CineForm AVI or MOV files and then benefit from the same theatrical quality and real-time editing performance as professionals.

Then hopefully Vegas Movie Studio Platinum(which I rather like the trial of so far) will use that and output the timeline into that same format. Then I'll do like always in the past and use http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te4xp.html that for encoding into the DVD or Blu-ray mpeg file.

It sounds like having them in that cineform format will be good for later archiving uses too, as man, the number of formats is scary now. And each format can also have it's own "division" based off the camera maker.

Anyone else using that or have a good set of steps for editing these newer formats? Just from what I saw last year I really am hesitant to edit mpeg files on the timeline and try and spit that out as another mpeg for dvd or even a less compressed avi.
 
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