• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Using a drone or UAV for a low level probe.

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So gals and gents. I was in a local hobby shop a few days ago and I saw this thing in there.

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It is the Yuneec Tornado H920. http://www.yuneec.com/Tornado-H920

So it got the wheels turning in my head. So I started looking around for open-source hardware for meteorological measurements and I found this. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12081

It is a auduino shield. Wind speed can be measured using a small anemometer.

Just an idea that I have.

Joshua
 
Good idea, but I've seen them go unstable in even a light Kansas wind - say 20mph - let alone anything even approaching severe criteria. A good gust will knock it right out of the sky.
 
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The technology is being developed. If the autopilot system is open source you actually don't need external sensors to get reasonable wind estimations. It can all be done with the inertial measurement unit. I do agree that most every commercially available platform would not survive a thunderstorm environment. The copter I've been working with specifically is from 3DRobotics and is stable in winds up to about 10 m/s. It's sketchy after that. But again, the technology is being developed...


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Well, it depends on what you mean by probe. If you are wishing to fly FPV (First Person View), then you must stay below 400ft, have eye contact with the drone, and you may not fly near airports. You must follow these laws and register your drone otherwise you could receive up to a $27,000 fine or up to a $250,000 fine if criminal activity is performed. Personally, I believe that you probably could do whatever the drone allows itself to do because the FAA does not have a way of monitoring how high or how far you go, but it still is a big risk to take. There are exceptions if you are a certified pilot and then you could get a 333 exemption. Otherwise the storm itself would probably blow a drone like that all over the place. What you would need would be a large FPV plane. Check out this link of a RC plane dropping probes into a tornado.
. I think this idea is very cool because of all of the photo/video possibilities. You could get angles of a tornado that you have never gotten before because the road networks where you were chasing were bad.

I have looked into this idea extensively and the only real solution around the FAA laws is to get a hot air balloon license. This could cost over $3000 of training and you have to fly once every 90 days otherwise your license expires. The setup for this type of drone is also extremely expensive. For the type of receivers, planes, and other equipment you would need would be well over $1000. However, you may not need to fly out of sight or above 400ft. You can get high enough up and close enough to the tornado that you may be able to drop a probe and let the strong inflow suck it in. It still would be extremely difficult and you would need a large plane to keep from the inflow sucking the craft right into the tornado. There has been a push recently, though, to tone down the FAA rules and we might see changes either way within the next couple years. I personally love the idea as I mentioned before and think if done properly could really obtain a lot of data not just on tornadoes, but on the whole storm structure itself.
 

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