• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Storm "Precip-loading" then "collapse"

cdcollura

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Good day all,

This is a concept of "what goes up, must come down".

I see many non-supercell storms, especially in places like Florida during the summer, and SW US, produce exceptionally strong down burst winds during their later stages (before dissapation).

I am thinking that the low shear environment, and high CAPE / moisture content allows the storm to build and precip-load (where precipitation is held up by the strong updraft) until a "tipping-point" is reached, and it call comes "down in one shot".

In most cases in a supercell storm, the heavy precipitation is dumped AWAY from the updraft, even in HP storms. The updraft portion remains active and is not supressed by downdrafts and precipitation (except RFD and wet-RFD in HP storms).

In lower shear (but very high instability) environments, the storm continues building with no precipitation (viaually) falling from a very dark base, even though the storm top is over 45,000 feet high and shows up on radar as 60+ dbz.

Once the storm matures, and precip begins falling, the storm "self destructs" based on how much was "held-up" in it, and a small area of severe weather (Usually 80-100 MPH winds with hail to quarter-sized) ensues, and ends in about 10-15 minutes with just the "orphan anvil" of the storm left (and light rain) and an outward-spreading "arcus" cloud from the cool pool (downdraft air).

I have seen some instances where a supercell, usually when a right-split occurs, or another storm develops ahead of it (south of it), it's inflow gets cut off, and the storm violently "gusts out", but does not seem as "violent" as a storm in a low-shear environment like Florida or the SW.

Any thoughts on precipitation-loading and severe-weather / pulse-storm instances?
 
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