Snowfall due to Power Plants

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Just saw this on OUN's website...kinda interesting. The steam output from the power plants is apparently seeding the low cloud deck, resulting in localised snow squalls.

*Note* I placed it in this section more to discuss the science associated with it, not the specific event itself.

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Similar to Lake Effect?

I'm wondering if this similar to the Lake Effect process that we see around the Great Lakes?

In the Lake Effect process, we have the colder, dry air passing over the wamer waters of the lakes. The moisture rising out of the lakes gets chilled by the colder air. Condensation takes place and snow falls in heavy bands beyond the lake shores.

The power plants releases steam plumes as part of their process. The colder air moving over the plants cools the plumes and condensation in the form of snow results.

Steam and ash, released from a volcano like Mount Redoubt in Alaska, have been observed on radar as rain/snow and people have observed "gritty" snowfall downfield from the volcano.
 
I can see what they are saying but , we had a good 30 minute dusting today in Sulphur . We have no Powe Plant around ? Did this also happen NE of Stillwater or NE of Red Rock ?
 
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This also occurs once in a while at the Becker, MN power plant up I-94 from the Twin Cities. Works in a similar process to lake effect! They have actually had some decent snow accumulation in that area when we have some very cold airmasses in place with light steering winds. It's definitely an interesting phenomenon.
 
I posted about this on my facebook. This was an astounding event.. the north shore of Lake Overholser had about 2" at least from mid afternoon Sunday until just before midnight when it abated. I too first discovered this heading down the Kilpatrick.. I noted to Dee (my wife) that it looked unusually dark ahead of us and was probably a fog bank coming off the lake. Well, that fog bank was a bank of snow.. which really blew my mind.. I thought, what in the heck could be causing this, I went over the short term data pretty good and thought somehow their was a minor wave moving through that wasn't picked up on the models, but then how quickly it stopped by the time I got to NW 10th really had me scratching my head. I couldn't wait to tell the folks at our chaser gathering in Norman only to be told that this was already reported along with the explanation.

On the way home around 2130cst, we passed through there again, same spot and lo and behold, road conditions went from near normal to slick and hazardous. At the toll booth between NW 39th and NW Expressway, it was snowing at least a half inch per hour, maybe more.. and the snow this time continued to the NW EXP. exit and up the highway to the west side of Surrey Hills before it ended. The next morning on the way to work, you could clearly see the enhanced area of accumulation and I estimated it at least 2" on the trees and some of the cars in the residential areas on the north side of the lake. As much and for as long as it was snowing, I'm surprised there was only that much.

Back up in Michigan, we have several large power plants in the area.. I have never seen it produce snow before, even under bitterly cold conditions. I did however see what looked like some very light snow at the pulp and paper mills on the south side of Thunder Bay, ON. a couple of times.. weather conditions were actually similar to the night in question, but the flakes were very small and accumulations were inconsequential. This event at Lake Overholser was far better than anything I've seen.

I am interested in hearing from the long time residents of OKC just how often this has happened in addition to what occurred a long time as discussed in the earlier post. All I know is this winter has restored hope that from time to time, it can really snow here in central OK. This I believe is the first time since 2000 that we have eclipsed our normal average of 8.6"
and we're not done yet.. I think the potential is there for a couple more significant winter weather events before we finally start talking supercells.:p
 
In July, 2002, I saw a summer variant on this type of phenomenon, as the refineries near Wood River, IL acted as a trigger for thunderstorms. Obviously, the environment was otherwise favorable, and the passage of a boundary also played a role, but the heat from the refineries seems to have been just enough to act as a trigger.

http://www.siue.edu/~jfarley/72102.htm
 
I posted about this on my facebook. This was an astounding event.. the north shore of Lake Overholser had about 2" at least from mid afternoon Sunday until just before midnight when it abated. I too first discovered this heading down the Kilpatrick.. I noted to Dee (my wife) that it looked unusually dark ahead of us and was probably a fog bank coming off the lake. Well, that fog bank was a bank of snow.. which really blew my mind.. I thought, what in the heck could be causing this, I went over the short term data pretty good and thought somehow their was a minor wave moving through that wasn't picked up on the models, but then how quickly it stopped by the time I got to NW 10th really had me scratching my head. I couldn't wait to tell the folks at our chaser gathering in Norman only to be told that this was already reported along with the explanation.

On the way home around 2130cst, we passed through there again, same spot and lo and behold, road conditions went from near normal to slick and hazardous. At the toll booth between NW 39th and NW Expressway, it was snowing at least a half inch per hour, maybe more.. and the snow this time continued to the NW EXP. exit and up the highway to the west side of Surrey Hills before it ended. The next morning on the way to work, you could clearly see the enhanced area of accumulation and I estimated it at least 2" on the trees and some of the cars in the residential areas on the north side of the lake. As much and for as long as it was snowing, I'm surprised there was only that much.

Back up in Michigan, we have several large power plants in the area.. I have never seen it produce snow before, even under bitterly cold conditions. I did however see what looked like some very light snow at the pulp and paper mills on the south side of Thunder Bay, ON. a couple of times.. weather conditions were actually similar to the night in question, but the flakes were very small and accumulations were inconsequential. This event at Lake Overholser was far better than anything I've seen.

I am interested in hearing from the long time residents of OKC just how often this has happened in addition to what occurred a long time as discussed in the earlier post. All I know is this winter has restored hope that from time to time, it can really snow here in central OK. This I believe is the first time since 2000 that we have eclipsed our normal average of 8.6"
and we're not done yet.. I think the potential is there for a couple more significant winter weather events before we finally start talking supercells.:p

You're spot on Rocky -- this was one of the most fascinating and exciting mesoscale events I've ever witnessed! After a friend pointed out the enhanced radar reflectivities streaming off of Lake Overholser around 7:00 PM on Sunday evening, we made a snap decision to take a quick drive up to Overholser from Norman to see what kind of precipitation, if any, was being produced. While driving up the east side of the lake on East Overholser Drive, we noted diamond dust-like snow falling. Very small flakes/crystal structures ... but there were quite a number of them coming down. We turned west on NW 39th Expressway and once we got a short distance past the bridge, wham! -- moderate snowfall of big, dense, conglomerated (non-dendritic) flakes. The moderate/heavy snow band was a little less than one mile across.

The 00Z OUN sounding shows a completely saturated, conditionally unstable boundary layer -- about 600m deep -- at the time. Surface winds were south-southeasterly. The snow band was very stable with a SSE surface wind. When the surface wind veered/backed too far off that sweet spot, the band appeared to weaken on radar.

Evidently there is a power plant near I-40, which is upstream of Lake Overholser with a SSE wind. Also, the large natural gas-powered OG&E McClain Generation Plant, in Newcastle, is directly upstream of Overholser with a SSE surface wind. With such a wind trajectory there would be a nearly perfect alignment of the streamline through both of those power plants and Lake Overholser. The radar reflectivities in the band ramped up dramatically over the south side of the lake. So, my guess is that crystallized steam exhaust from both power plants (perhaps the diamond dust-like "snow" we observed on the east side of the lake) seeded a lake-effect/enhanced snow band off Overholser, facilitated by the moist, unstable boundary layer.

There were spots north of the lake were it was clear that at least 2" of new snow had fallen ... maybe as much as 2.5-3". Since the band was so narrow and fluttered back and forth east-west quite a bit, the total accumulation in any particular spot was stunted. Snowfall rates in the heart of the band were indeed over 1"/hr at times. I measured 1/4" of new snowfall in a little less than 15 minutes at one point!

Here's a little video we shot during the "chase" lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj2O7TXMuwA

Sure makes me want to visit the Tug Hill Plateau area in upstate New York and see some of the 5"/hr madness they get in lake-effect off Lake Ontario one of these days! :D
 
David.. thank you so much for posting that video.. the snow was coming down at a decent clip when we were coming back through around 9pm. I actually rank this as one of my top 5 weather anomalies I've ever witnessed. I'm sure a set up like this doesn't happen except once every 10-20 years or so. Then again, this winter has been anything but normal.
 
I saw an NWS study a few years ago...I think it was about a nuclear power plant in WV??? Details kinda fuzzy right now but the whole thing was about a snow storm induced by the moisture from the cooling towers. Snow fall was downwind of the towers for about a mile I think. It happened on a very cold clear night. Google it, maybe it will show up.
 

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