• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

SDS treatment: Firenadoes

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I was out today west of Olathe taking pictures of a controlled burn and as I was leaving noticed these vortices that would start in the fire and move out of them with debris clouds similar to tornadoes! They would last a few minutes before dissipating and when I went back out later, there weren't any at all as the surface winds picked up. I remember Mike Umscheid a few years ago had some pretty sweet photos of these. These are taken on the wide end (from 10-20 mm) and it sure does help cure SDS! The motion on them was intense even though they wouldn't be more than 5 yards wide and 100 yards tall.

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I have seen a few smaller ones from fires, but these were usually is semi-wooded areas so they did not have any room to develop like the one you got.
That are neat looking.
 
Jim, I'm not entirely sure. I was talking to a fireman and a conservation officer and they seemed to think they formed when two "headfires" converged near each other and claim to see them a lot. This one below, was before the first one I posted and the motion on it resembled an intense tornado...I wish I would have had my video camera to film the motion on it!

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Jim, I'm not entirely sure. I was talking to a fireman and a conservation officer and they seemed to think they formed when two "headfires" converged near each other and claim to see them a lot. This one below, was before the first one I posted and the motion on it resembled an intense tornado...I wish I would have had my video camera to film the motion on it!

It was that bottom structure that made me ask, it seems more like a land spout or tight large CA style dust devil to me than the usual whirlwind dust devils we see here. I do know as it gets hotter that the higher temps off of the black burnt ash seems to increase the dust devil intensities but that's pretty defined there.
 
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