• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Radar Problems

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Since last night, when viewing the national radar composite, many of the sites appear to have an expanding green colored clutter. When I click on a radar site, you can see the active weather but it is somewhat covered by the clutter. I use Stormlab with Allison House with level 3. I saw where Allison House needs updating. Although I use AH, I though I was still using the SL radar from NWS..Could this be the problem.....thanks
 
Did the ground clutter appearance fade within a few hours after sunrise? If so, are you sure it wasn't the normal nocturnal expansion of ground and biological scatterers? After peak heating (usually mid-later afternoon), boundary layer mixing decreases and, eventually and typically, ceases. As this happens, near-surface stability increases, and, around dusk, bugs tend to come out. Together, there tends to be considerably greater ground clutter and non-meteorological scattering at night than during the day. I looked at some data from last night, but I didn't see anything terribly abnormal (though, again, I only looked at a couple of sites).
 
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I just checked the radar & it does seem to have cleared up somewhat during the day. I just have never seen this phenomenon previously. It only happens in the states in the middle of the country from Texas northward. Also, seems when I use the composite reflectivity mode there still remains a pretty substantial amount of clutter away from the radar. I did just check one site which has weather and the clutter actually overlays the rain signature, similar to a semi-transparent overlay. On the national composite loop it looks like a lime green clutter growing from the site.

Beats me!....Thanks for the opinion & I'll continue to monitor it.
 
What you are seeing is "radar blooming". This happens during the evening/overnight because of the inversion that sets up at low-levels in the atmosphere. This inversion results in the radar beam bending toward the surface of the earth, and so it stays in the atmospheric boundary layer for longer distances from the radar. This is called super-refraction of the radar beam. Since the beam shoots through the boundary layer for farther distances at night, the bugs, dust, aerosols, bats, birds, smoke particles that are frequent in the boundary layer at night, are detected farther away. It's most apparent during the warmer part of the year when such non-weather targets are more numerous.

A nice page that explains what atmospheric refraction of the radar beam is at

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/doppler/beam_max.htm
 
Thanks so much everyone for taking the time to assist me...it has all cleared up now. No doubt all of you are correct....I just have never seen it appear before....GPhillips, thanks for the article, I'll read it now.
 
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