NCEP Model & Analyses & Forecasts Web Site will have a new web site.

[mikegeukes]

This site NCEP Model & Analyses & Forecasts http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/ is scheduled to be decommissioned on April 5th 2011.

Please bookmark the new Model Analyses and Guidance Web site which replaces it. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller

 

[Chip Redmond]

I came across this the other day... I like the idea they have with the models, but nothing beats a spreadsheet type format they had before. It just seems confusing with the forecast hours and then domains. It is cool that we can see model data over the world with much larger domains and that they have included tropical models. The looping works much better than the previous site as well.



Chip

 

[mikegeukes]

I like the old format better.

Mike

 

[Michael Riedl]

I liked the old site much better.

Ah well, change is upon us.

 

[Jason Boggs]

I absolutely hate the new format. Change isn't always good.

 

[Darren Addy]

This site NCEP Model & Analyses & Forecasts http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/ is scheduled to be decommissioned on April 5th 2011.

What (exactly) does it mean when a site is "decommissioned". Does it mean that the underlying images/graphics will no longer be created (anywhere)? Or does it mean that those graphics will simply no longer be uploaded/saved to that specific server/location?

If nothing else, the current (soon to be "previous") format could be continued by somebody else, if the graphics are still out there... or if they have the ability to generate those same graphics out of publicly accessible data. Seems like something Earl Barker or the TwisterData guys (or somebody else with the resources) could pick up on.

Normally the NWS has a public comment page for new sites/capabilities before putting them in to operation. Did this one not follow that format for some reason? Or did we just miss it?

 

[Mike Smith]

I absolutely hate the new format. Change isn't always good.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[rdale]

Does it mean that the underlying images/graphics will no longer be created (anywhere)?

Correct.

If nothing else, the current (soon to be "previous") format could be continued by somebody else, if the graphics are still out there... or if they have the ability to generate those same graphics out of publicly accessible data. Seems like something Earl Barker or the TwisterData guys (or somebody else with the resources) could pick up on.

All of the maps were generated by GEMPAK, which is openly available, and using the exact same model data that TwisterData and everyone else got (and still gets.) Nothing prevents others from a 100% duplication of the old NCEP style.

Normally the NWS has a public comment page for new sites/capabilities before putting them in to operation. Did this one not follow that format for some reason? Or did we just miss it?

As I recall it came out late fall last year? I think most chasers use software or websites with better convective parameters to have noticed.

 

[Andrew Herron]

Looks like these images are coming from GEMPAK too:

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/GemPakTier/MagGemPakImages/gfs/20110303/12/gfs_namer_006_precip_p03.gif

 

[Greg Blumberg]

Well, there's always the opportunity for you to post your comments in the survey on the page! Looks neat, but I admit it. I did like the whole spreadsheet style.

 

[Paul Knightley]

Awful - the old site is much better - this new one is horrible.

 

[Robert Dewey]

Lump me in with the rest... and I did fill out the survey like 12 months ago.

 

[Andrew Herron]

Some time ago I developed a JavaScript based image viewer for various models. Everyone is more than welcome to use it, and if there's a large enough group, perhaps I'll develop a backend for it in order to support other models. I started this because while the spreadsheet layout was nice, it was cumbersome.

One of the key features is that you can change model run without changing the valid date, great for comparing runs with each other.

http://www.kwixs.net/ncep/

 

[MClarkson]

I like the old one better, but its not the end of the world.

The new sight loads faster and I like the 3 hour time steps (although they might want to change to 3 hour precip to match). The lack of different image resolutions is a bit annoying.

 

[David Wolfson]

I'm gratified to see that the decommissioning of the NCEP site has been put off until August 29th. I also had reviewed the new design unfavorably compared with the current one.