• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Impressive Mexico Hailstorm

Mikayla Norris

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Saw some stories about a hailstorm in Guadalajara, Mexico that dumped something like 3-5 feet of hail. Apparently they had to use some heavy equipment to clear roads and everything.

Here is a CBS News article: Freak hailstorm dumps up to 6 feet of ice on Guadalajara, Mexico

On the flipside, I also found an article from Forbes that delves into the climatology and cautioned against the strong wording most media outlets were using such as "freak" and "epic" storm. It mentions how most of the deep piles were probably caused by the flash flooding associated with the storm. It also touches on the climate change implications a lot of articles seems to be running with. I found it pretty interesting

www.forbes.com

Why Caution Is Needed With Those Hail Pictures In Mexico

Those hail pictures from Mexico are really cool, but some perspective is required on what happened.
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I have experienced my share of accumulating hailers in my days, most of them in Colorado. I can say from experience, seeing a foot or so of hail accumulate is nothing out of the ordinary there. And I have seen drifts several feet deep.

As Michael mentioned, a lot of the depth from hail often is hail being channeled via flash flooding. The video clip I saw of the semi truck going through the hail clearly shows some flooding beneath the hail layer. I cannot imagine a semi making it through a solid layer of feet of hail. I did a blurb on this on air today and mentioned the "five feet of hail" was likely aided by flash flooding and not actually five feet of hail falling in this storm.

Most hail depth I have measured in a flat area was just over a foot a couple times in Colorado. Below are a couple storms I sat through where they had to break out the plows to clear the hail from the roads.

May 26, 2010 - Hudson, Colorado

June 17, 2013 - Morgan County, Colorado
 
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