• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

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    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Go Pro HD cameras

Any experience with the Drift Innovation HD170 that Verne mentioned?

http://www.driftinnovation.com/hd170-action-camera

I really like the features: external mic, waterproof, sleeker design, lcd screen so you can line your shot up. The Contour HD has pretty poor battery life, and only takes MicroSD cards (16GB max) which are pretty big cons for me.

edit: Apparently the Drift is "waterproof to .5 meters" which really just means splashproof. People that do sports like jet skiing have reported problems with it. Also just found the Oregon Scientific ACT9K to further complicate the buying decision: http://pointofviewcameras.com/oregon-scientific-atc9k-1080p-hd-video-camera.html
 
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I've seen the GoPro in action and picture quality is great for the price. A big plus is the huge viewing angle. You don't miss much of the action when you have a 120 degree field of view. One downside I've noticed is, without the LCD screen, you have a hard time knowing what the camera is doing or how to get it into the right mode. You have to read the manual and make sure you are pressing the right buttons, so its not completely fool proof.

The newest firmware has AV-Out function Skip.. I use the GoProHD for First Person View RC flying now and it works great:
http://www.youtube.com/user/W4UAV

http://www.youtube.com/user/W4UAV#p/u/5/ofaE6cjrkgc
 
I just started researching these a few days ago, glad to see a discussion on it here. I like the idea of having an LCD screen and a remote so the Drift Innovation sounds quite appealing...although AV out on the GoPro may be all I need. I REALLY REALLY like Skips dome camera and think this could be a cheap way of doing something similar.

I think the real question is, how many do I buy??
 
Can't beat the price! I figured something like this would be at least $500. I do find it interesting that it lacks an HDMI connection for hooking directly up to a HD display for viewing recorded footage. Most displays only accept a 1080p signal through the HDMI input.
 
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Good day all,

I got a GoPro HD "Hero" camera and accessories at my skydiving place back in September for about $250 and change (everything included, so I saved about $50). The first use of the system was with Hurricane Igor in Bermuda, right in the 80 MPH winds and in, or even under, the storm surge!

There are 5 video modes, ranging from 720p through 1080i, and it's saved to a tapeless MP4 format (on an SD memory card). There is also an automatic shoot still mode, manual still mode, and even timelapse (adjustable from 2 to 60 seconds), which all could come in handy.

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The 170 degree viewing angle is second-to-none, and captures all the action. The "test" image above shows a skydive (I am upside down) with the camera mounted on a wrist band!

For storm chasing, the waterproof case comes in handy, as well as the mounts. Heck, I am sure you can fasten it to a tree or pole and let a tornado "run over" it ... Or, even better, it can be used on some of those airborne platforms (like the one Verne C us using).

The only down side I can find is the 2.5 hour battery life, rather cryptic LCD display (you have to memorize a few things from the manual, then you should be OK), as well as the MP4 format, which has some issues with Adobe CS4 (but there is a work-around for that). Basically, the MP4 format can be edited in many (especially Mac) packages. There is no tape so firewire is not applicable, just put the SD card and download the MP4 videos from the card, that's it.

If you encounter an MP4 issue (such as with Adobe Premiere), the video will not load properly, and Premiere can even "hang". The work-around is rather simple, though. Take the MP4 ('s) and open them in Quicktime Pro ($29). Then simply choose "Save As" and save the file ... All this does is re-structure the "container" for the MP4 movie, and QUICKY saves it as a MOV (quicktime) file. This can easily be brought into Adobe CSx and edited (or converted to any format using the "media encoder"). This work-around is very important to know, and worked great for me.

The HD video from my GoPro (at 1080i) and my Sony HDR-FX1 looks identical in quality, the only difference being the wide angle on the GoPro. In Igor in Bermuda, I was able to edit / encode it and send HD video out to TWC, much of it from the GoPro!

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Above: Still image from Hurricane Igor in Bermuda.

Another minor drawback can be the waterproof package where a drop of water may accumulate right in the middle of the lens (if used in heavy water / spray type environments, such as rain and hurricane chasing). This can be alleviated by spreading some baby shampoo in a thin film over the lens.

For video output, the unit comes with composite (YGB) HD video cable / dongle for playback, not HDMI.

There is really nothing else to worry about. You set the mode, no focus to worry about, aim the camera and that's it, let it run.

Other than that, I'd give the camera a two thumbs up. Parts, such as mounts and even a new replacement lens cover, are cheap and easily available. For the price, the quality of the video / pictures is awesome. And if there is a "mishap", such as the camera getting smashed by debris, it sure would be better to spend $300 to replace it instead of 10x that as with another larger HD outfit!
 
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I was looking at the technical specs of both cameras, and while the GoPro HD has a 1/2.5" sensor, Contour doesn't list their sensor size and it could be significantly smaller. According to the reviews on B&H is seems like some people are having issues with both cameras, but in general it seems like the GoPro is getting better reviews.

IMO, the GoPro seems better suited for chaser needs - more waterproof, and a much more solid polycarbonate housing.
 
Im a Contour HD person myself.

I jus dont really care for the GoPro stuff. Never have. I have never once regretted buying my Contour HD.

IMO, the GoPro seems better suited for chaser needs - more waterproof, and a much more solid polycarbonate housing.

The weather/water proof case for the CHD is awesome. The camera itself is better constructed than the GPHD and once in the case the CHD is perfectly protected from weather. Just my $.02
 
I love my GoPro.. Use it surfing all the time.

Here is a little clip I put together when I first got it. I have not used it when chasing, but it would be great. I have sooo much great footage of my kids surfing and riding bikes with this thing. I love it..

If you are worried about it getting wet, I think this video proves it's all go to go. Man, I bet if you threw this thing up in a Tornado it would handle it! That would be cool. Put a little GPS tracker on there.

Oh, and let me add that with the Go Pro, not the Drift Inn. you can shoot in 60p. Which is 60 frames a second which is great for slo-mo shots. It basically shoots double the frame rate (in 720p) then most cameras. For the weddings we do, we always shoot the creative stuff in 60p to get that sweet slow motion look. It's super smooth. So, I edit the 60p footage in a 24p timeline and it's sweet. You can see a few of the slo mo shots in the surfing video above. If that was 30p or 24p or 60i it would be super jittery and steppy. And please remember, this is super high action footage. So much is moving around and it's still really smooth. If you shoot lightning in 60p you could get some nice slow mo shots. Have you ever seen those Phantom cameras. They shoot like 2000 Frame Per second. Amazing!

Hope that helps!

Go get one..

Bp
 
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Just ordered a GoPro HD HERO Naked to put on the dash for next season despite it's HDMI limitations I had with it which I'm able to look over. What I like about it is that it seems like a low maintenance solution for recording video when you're trying to juggle several other tasks while chasing (looking out at the sky for one!). Just mount it to the dash and record! There's no wires to string to a laptop or software to configure to ensure it's recording, and it's built to withstand any water that my come into the vehicle during a downpour with the waterproof casing.
 
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