Westboro Baptist Church will picket the National Weather Service Oct 8th

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I'd love to be there to confront them, with Bible in hand and show these charlatans how they are and have been mis-using the Word of God to advance their own agenda. It's why I left the whole fundamentalist church movement. Lord help those poor brain-washed people..
In your opinion....what is their agenda?
 
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I dunno, who's more offensive: a bunch of loons proclaiming that God's weather will wipe us out, or a bunch of storm chasers whooping and hollering as they record a town's destruction for utube? ;)

I'm envious, Stan. You're got a helluva mind working up top there, brother. That comment was a home run hit...straight out of the ball park and into an unsuspecting open-door box-car blazing past the outskirts of the ballpark's property on a nonstop trip to the coast. Well done, sir. Beautiful logic. I'm not worthy...I'm not worthy!
 

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Whoa....easy there, Mike. As a man who takes his long-ago decision to follow Christ's teachings seriously (and who often falls far short of that goal daily), and as a man of 60 who half my life ago was so heavily involved with drugs and alcohol that the amounts I would often laughingly ingest were the same amounts that killed others, I can attest that for me, living a Christian life is infinitely more satisfying and rewarding than my former life of self-induced hell. The beauty of my life now is that I get to witness to others who are locked into the same horrible, destructive path as mine was. My personal Christian walk is serious business, as there are times I'll need to deal with truly intelligent and decent souls that have allowed themselves to fall so far down that they are now in the process of weighing the consequences of suicide. My brother, and I say this to you with respect....it gets my hackles up when Christianity is the recipient of a cheap-shot. Unless someone is personally coming at me hard and with a dedicated desire to inflict harm, I'll normally get over the initial sting of the comment quickly... shake it off.....then walk away without holding malice towards that individual. I guess what I'd like for you to understand is that a comment such as yours does have a real bite to it to a LOT of people, and if that was your intention then congratulations.....you scored. If it wasn't your intent...then humbly, all I ask that you give perhaps a brief moment of thought as to what I'm trying to convey here
I applaud them for standing up for their convictions
I am an atheist and I do not think that I should have to apologize for that.....I will admit that my comment WAS meant as a cheap shot towards religion (especially of this cult-like magnitude) and I apologize that it offended you. At the same time though, I will stand up for MY convictions, and I respectfully think that anyone who believes or follows the long quote that is posted below is either on drugs, or more likely, a little mentally ill. I say this in all seriousness...not trying to offend you. Now, I am not claiming that all extremely religious people are mentally ill (that is a discussion for another forum), nor do I think that these people are all necessarily bad. You can believe whatever you want to believe. If finding god, or religion, helped you overcome some problems in your life, great, believe it, I am happy that you are OK. I just don't think I should have to believe these things, and opinions regarding such beliefs should not need to be censored. Religious people rarely seem to censor their opinions about non-believers.... Finally, I think you may still be offended after this post, but that was not the goal here, I just felt the need to defend myself, because I am sick of religion always getting babied. I respect you as a person, I just happen to disagree with your beliefs. Hopefully this can end here on an agree to disagree basis, and ST doesn't need to spiral into a religious forum, but I doubt it, LOL.

ONLY by God’s mercy and power do you gather intelligence on His weather. The day comes when all weather rules, as you know them, will be gone. America crossed the Rubicon when, by force of law, you permitted same-sex marriage. Further, when a people cast the commandments of God behind their back and turn to evil, God will turn the weather, the elements and all nature against you! Give the glory of the Works of God, TO GOD! Your DUTY is to never again attribute the glorious works of God to any other, including your false goddess, Mother Nature. Let these words of God instruct you! Nahum 1:3 “The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.” God gave instruction, and said OBEY, promising good things for obedience or otherwise evil things! Joshua 23:15 “Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.” NOTE to weather reporting rebels: nothing happens in this earth without the direct command of God. HE is sovereign of all! Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Amos 3:6 “Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?” Jeremiah 7:9-10 “Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely… and walk after other gods… And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?” NO!! Destruction cometh! Stay tuned! Global Warming is just getting started!
 
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The world rolling around the Norman/OU community is that the protest was pretty pitiful - only 5 or 6 members showed up. However, it was estimated that 30-40 non-members also showed up, but may have been mostly local media, like the OU newspaper staff. I haven't heard if there was any substantial number of counter-protesters.
 
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I heard that they were signing "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen as NWC workers walked by while holding signs about homosexuality hatred. Figure that one out.

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Mike was quoting from their press release.
haha yea, I think he was offended that I inferred that this press release had to have had drugs involved.
Whether you were quoting or not, I took it that you were on board with what was being said...and it appears as if I was correct. Never once did I seekan apology....never once did I say that your thoughts should be censored. And no, I have no desire to let this spiral into the abyss here in S.T. If you ever get out in the alley during storm season, we can always meet each other and take it up from there if you wish, I'm out for a month each late May thru all of June, and I'm easy to track down. I believe what I wrote should be crystal clear, and I did it in as soft and as respectful manner as I'm capable of doing. Religion always being babied?
 

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Whether you were quoting or not, I took it that you were on board with what was being said...and it appears as if I was correct. Never once did I seekan apology....never once did I say that your thoughts should be censored. And no, I have no desire to let this spiral into the abyss here in S.T. If you ever get out in the alley during storm season, we can always meet each other and take it up from there if you wish, I'm out for a month each late May thru all of June, and I'm easy to track down. I believe what I wrote should be crystal clear, and I did it in as soft and as respectful manner as I'm capable of doing.
What? You've completely lost me......
 
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Well....a few moments have elapsed since my last post that I made to John...thanking him for essentially tugging my coattail and making me stop and come to my senses. I apologize to whomever had to read my post directly above his. I was getting up in the air like in days gone by, and it was wrong of me.
I don't make excuses when I'm in the wrong, I own up to it. This may shed some light as to explain what's going on. Ten years ago at a restaurant, one of my best friends for 25 yrs....who was 53 yrs. of age at that time and sitting with his wife....announced gleefully that "they were pregnant". He was a cross between a biker with a free-bird spirit....a guy that used to be a for-real "debt-collector" for undesirables yet with a good heart sometimes too....a strange mix. When he so proudly announced that they were pregnant, those of us close to him looked at each other, then started in with the "well that's great, but "what IF" ...."what if" "what if". They didn't want to hear it, of course. Well.....ten years later, here we are: She died of breast cancer 5 yrs. ago....and yesterday late afternoon I stood in his hospital room with his two boys ....aged 10 and 9...while the doctor unplugged his life support machine and let him die.......HepC and lastly bleeding thru into his brain was the reason for pulling his plug. So, in a couple of hours from now, I'm leaving home to go spend the night at his house with his 2 parent-less boys." What IF"...became "well....THIS IS WHY"....and now we're pickup up the pieces. As I write this I'm so sad I could cry....and at the same time I'm absolutely so efffin' angry I could chew through a steel cable right now. My apologies for letting my raw-ness override my sensibilities in my post. Thank you again John, for saying the right words gently, and making me take a breath.