Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong... [The site did not add those extras - I did ] False alarms kill people. You don't automatically issue a warning every time a tornado is reported via Twitter. Or called in. Or SN'd. Even if a freacking dominating chaser is the reporting agent. A spotter REPORT is not a sole source - spotter video probably could be. But a report is just part of the process. I highly recommend people interested in the process of issuing warnings ask their local EMs to bring in the free "Tornado Awareness" course from NDPTC. Message me for more info (it's the only FEMA class I've offered that students asked me to bring back.)Even if we have another Bobby Cookie on our hands, you still must warn the public.
Back at you! I don't even remember why you hold a grudge for something you said or did 10 years ago that offended me, and yet I still defended you in this case. And it wasn't even due just to Christmas spirit!Great seeing you again, rdale! Merry Christmas
I'm not going to get into an argument here, but in my best judgement, that storm was not a supercell. A supercell is a thunderstorm with a deep, persistent, rotating updraft, i.e., a mesocyclone. This means that the storm spends enough time ingesting air parcels to result in strong vertical vorticity over an area generally of a few kilometers in radius over a deep depth of the storm and for more than long enough for parcels to traverse the storm, which tends to be on the order of 15-30 minutes. In case you'd like to see a second opinion on that, you can check the AMS Glossary definition here. None of the features you mentioned qualify a storm as being a supercell, and just because a thunderstorm produces a tornado does not automatically make it a supercell.For the person who said it wasn't a supercell, it was one of the most textbook supercells I have ever seen. RFB, inflow bands, horseshoe cut with rising scud northeast. There was zero precip.
See?...it was one of the most textbook supercells I have ever seen....
I love people that armchair QB others and tell them what they should or should not be doing or how they should and shouldnt react/behave. [emoji19]You do not respond in the way McGowan did. You do not call an organization "***holes" and throw a tantrum in the public eye. If you have a problem with someone, handle it in private. Acting professional in the public eye is absolutely necessary, especially when you have such a large following like McGowan.
Second, you do not threaten to "boycott" storm reporting. Whatever happened to this "saving lives" attitude? Chasers are there to report ground truth and, even though there was a disagreement yesterday on the report, that is still your purpose.
Yes, the NWS office should not have called McGowan a liar. But, he has to know how to handle himself.
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Wow - did you really revive this thread on Christmas to throw insults at a professional meteorologist? Nicely played...some halfwit, lame brame uppity meteorologist with an ego that said met obviously felt insulted since some chaser was on a tornado and this clown couldnt even use all of his wonderful little technology (that he is so dependent on) to find it on his radar.
this is why when I chase I dont bother with reports. too much drama, I leave it to someone else to deal with. (I'm sure you'll armchair QB me too for that though).
Had two chasers called in this tornado (of the "umpteen" out there ) this thread wouldn't have even existed.plus with umpteen chasers out there, there is guaranteed to be multiple call-ins. I go to see and document the event for whatever enjoyment is left of this hobby. I am sure someone will respond to this just to keep the argument going, but I won't play.
Can we please drop the saving lives stuff? If the true purpose was to save lives, then he could have had his SN info saved on his phone, called it in, or followed up on the questions that were asked by the NWS office. Several simple steps could have been taken and none of them were.He was trying to save lives by making a report