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Dateline ran a really interesting special on Hurricane Andrew recently...something like within the last couple of weeks. Anywho, they did a great job showing the looting and basic anachry that reigned in Andrew's aftermath. One reported asked a looter, "Why are you looting?" The man replied with, "Because everyone is." They also showed how some people formed vigilante groups to patrol their neighborhoods.

Definitely dark times ahead. I've been to New Oreleans twice. It is a rough city and not a place where I would want to spend an extended amount of time.

I pray for all the law-abiding people there that are trying to surivive in the face of this kind of thing.
 
Apr 13, 2005
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People die because of looters. I don't care if they are stealing food and water or computers they should be punished very severly. First of all these looters are not even supposed to be there. If by chance they did not have any way to get out of the city they were supposed to be in a shelter. It is there fault they wanted to ride out a cat 4-5 hurricane in New Orleans despite years and years of warnings. Who is to determine what people are stealing. It does not matter, they should all be shot. Oh, how many videos did you see of looters coming out of the stores with food? How many of the looters where elderly and disabled?

Looters kill people. I wonder exactly how many people did not evacuate because they knew the looters would just take all of their belongings. I wonder how many of those people got rescued today off the roof of their house. I wonder how many of those people did not get rescued and died. I do believe that these Looters did not go to shelters so they could go out and steal after the storm. It is disturbing, but being from the NO area not at all suprising.
 

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From WWLTV. New Orleans Officer shot in while attempting to stop looting.

I picked this up from the web cast. Officer arrived at a Gas Station, attempted to stop some looters and one of the looters came up from behind and shot the officer in the back of the head.

This is a report from the field and and the details aren't confirmed. If this is indeed true, I would expect a much tougher stance on the looting than what has been seen so far.
 
Dec 9, 2003
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Why do people keep referring to these folks as looters? The more video I see of this (now of a Walmart in Mobile I believe -- maybe in New Orleans), the more I realize that we need to refer to these folks as THIEVES! Folks stealing TVs, XBoxs, jewelry, etc... You MAY have a moral argument if folks are starving to death, etc, but there is NO moral argument for the folks that are stealing non-essential items. Grrrrr.
 
Apr 21, 2005
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Why do people keep referring to these folks as looters? The more video I see of this (now of a Walmart in Mobile I believe -- maybe in New Orleans), the more I realize that we need to refer to these folks as THIEVES! Folks stealing TVs, XBoxs, jewelry, etc... You MAY have a moral argument if folks are starving to death, etc, but there is NO moral argument for the folks that are stealing non-essential items. Grrrrr.
i love the fact that they have all this crap and will not be able to use it for a very long time.
 
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This is simply civil order breaking down. This is what happens in a power vaccume. (Coincidentally, this is why Libertarianism/Anarchy can't function as a political system -- it denegerates into warlordism). This looting would happen anywhere in any city in America if everyone around felt that there was no chance of getting caught.

At the moment there is effectively no law enforcement in NOLA. Can you imagine that? People can do whatever they want and get away with it. Murder, rape, arson... anything. I can't imagine what is going on in NOLA right now and don't want to. Looting is the least of their problems.
 
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Why do people keep referring to these folks as looters? The more video I see of this (now of a Walmart in Mobile I believe -- maybe in New Orleans), the more I realize that we need to refer to these folks as THIEVES! Folks stealing TVs, XBoxs, jewelry, etc... You MAY have a moral argument if folks are starving to death, etc, but there is NO moral argument for the folks that are stealing non-essential items. Grrrrr.
Very much agreed....
 

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At this point in time, it's time to get the keys to the weapons cache...esp. after the prision riot and all the looting that is occuring. Laws of society have degraded to the point the conventional methods are meaningless.
 
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Saw a shot where they where rolling a desk down the street . This desk was a desk from an office since it still had papers on it. No concern about the stuff inside that might be very important to the owner of that desk. That is plain stealing and robbery not looting. :(
 
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Saw a shot where they where rolling a desk down the street . This desk was a desk from an office since it still had papers on it. No concern about the stuff inside that might be very important to the owner of that desk. That is plain stealing and robbery not looting. :(
Thats sad and pretty funny if you think about it.

Sorry if people dont think it is funny.
 
I can have a little sympathy with the grocery store looters (though the video on TV showed the looters as all smiles which tells me they are enjoying the endeavor). My question is what the heck are you going to do with a TV or microwave oven with no power and water rising? There is simply not enough man power to deal with the issue and there are much higher priorities. NBC Nighly News showed a dead man on a curb. Homicide? The only good news about the rising waters is that the crime wave should get seriously reduced as people will not be as mobil. A good reason to raid the grocery store but these peole should have been out of dodge when the evac order was given. A 24-hr curfew would be helpful in theory but not very enforcable. NOLA is anarchy.
 
Apr 13, 2005
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Just saw some video of NOPD officers raiding a store and before you say they need supplies the buggy was full of junk that would not be needed for rescuing people or anything else for that matter, like a display shelf of perfume. Another NOPD officer was shot while trying to stop some Looters. It is very sickening. Haley Barbour is not to worried about looting on the Ms gulf coast since there is nothing left to steal. Also heard of some guys wading in waste deep water wearing a full length Mink coat. It is really disturbing. I have my artillery ready in case someone tries it my neighborhood. I doubt they will but you never know. People are getting real edgy hear and bored with no electricity. WAPT is still going wall to wall with some incredible video and interviews. Streaming can be found on their sister stations web site WVUE.COM.
 
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As more evidence of the atrocity occurring, from NOLA.com

Children's Hospital under seige
Tuesday, 11:45 p.m.

Late Tuesday, Gov. Blanco spokeswoman Denise Bottcher described a disturbing scene unfolding in uptown New Orleans, where looters were trying to break into Children's Hospital.

Bottcher said the director of the hospital fears for the safety of the staff and the 100 kids inside the hospital. The director said the hospital is locked, but that the looters were trying to break in and had gathered outside the facility.

The director has sought help from the police, but, due to rising flood waters, police have not been able to respond.

Bottcher said Blanco has been told of the situation and has informed the National Guard. However, Bottcher said, the National Guard has also been unable to respond.
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/in..._08.html#075290
 

Anonymous

Calling all flatbottom boats in area to help with evacuation of new orleans. last time in New Orleans I had a gun stuck in my face. Me and my flat bottom boat arnt going anywhere near new orlans. dont need my name on that list of dead.
 
Jul 7, 2004
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I'm ok with people taking food, water, etc to survive but some of the looters down there are smiling as they're looting and a police officer was shot in the head by a looter (CNN as source). IMO these people who are taking all these non-essentials like they're free and shooting people are just pigs. How low do you have to be to do such things? I'll give a few of them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're looting for necessities or cause they have lost their minds and are in a state of panic but I doubt that's what most of the looting is because of.
 
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I heard on the radio a few minute ago that weapons are becoming the most sought after items among the looters. If this true it could spell real trouble. Heavily armed gangs of looters in shootouts or even open battles with the National Guard... Not a pretty picture.

Of course, they may just be trying to protect themselves. Crazy things happen in a society when the usual rules break down.
 

Rob_Davis

Well, I can honestly say that if I were stuck there right now, I would want to be armed too.

All the looting is pretty pointless, really. Those people won't be allowed to stay in New Orleans. And they won't be allowed to bring their plasma TV with them to wherever they are being evacuated to. If and when the looters ever get back to their homes, that stuff won't be there anymore.

I guess it keeps the kids off the streets. :lol:
 
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I'm curious about what specifically is being looted. Certainly guns and plasma TVs are being taken, certainly the entire contents of supermarkets, however I'm curious what you have specifically noticed. Maybe we'll see something interesting here.

I haven't watched much of it but so far I've seen:
* Plastic bag with about 20 bottled sodas, at a gas station
* About 50 of blouses and shirts off a rack (this has got to be for bartering or something, if not just for having it)

Tim
 
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