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What the heck is wrong with people?!

Originally posted by WDSU

A WDSU news crew just captured images of looters hauling items out of the Winn Dixie across from the Municipal Auditorium. The video shows people using shopping carts and hand-held carts to haul off cleaning supplies, beer and other items.
http://www.wdsu.com/news/4907744/detail.html

Seriously, you'd think that the last thing you'd want to do at this time is steal stuff. Grrr. If the building is damaged, the owners and employees are in enough trouble, without having to take loses from looters (thieves).
 

Guest

The same thing happened in Miami with Andrew.
Disgusting! Sometimes, tragedy brings out the best AND the worst in people.
 

Anonymous

Maybe it's funny to you. Try being one of the ones who evacuated not only having to worry about damage from the storm, but now having what's left of your belongings carted off by thieves. I wish the Governor would issue "shoot looters on sight" orders for the Nat'l Guard.
 
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As long as corporate stores are looted and and not residential houses or mom & pop places, it's hard for me to get upset. Many of the corporate entities and their owners are far better off than these people. I guess that's the socialist in me. Though if I was governor I would certainly not condone any looting, period.

On the other hand, I am pretty sure tonight will be a really dark time for New Orleans, as the inevitable burglaries, larcenies, assaults, et cetera take place. I've been trying to find a really absorbing article on this that I read in 2003 regarding the anarchy following Hurricane Andrew, but came up empty on Google. Based on what happened in Andrew, tonight is absolutely going to suck in New Orleans -- a deep darkness of many different facets.

Tim
 

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Originally posted by Tim Vasquez
As long as corporate stores are looted and and not residential houses or mom & pop places, it's hard for me to get upset. Many of the corporate entities and their owners are far better off than these people. I guess that's the socialist in me.
Tim
Stealing is stealing regardless of ownership.
 

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Originally posted by B Ozanne
I have no problem with people looting food in a disaster if they are starving.

I also have no problem with a shoot first ask questions later policy if it is anything but food.
I agree with you on this.

Dan Cook wrote:

Tim Vasquez wrote:
As long as corporate stores are looted and and not residential houses or mom & pop places, it's hard for me to get upset. Many of the corporate entities and their owners are far better off than these people. I guess that's the socialist in me.
Tim


Stealing is stealing regardless of ownership.


I agree with Dan on this one....I mean I can understand if someone needs food, water, medicine or even a shirt, after something like this. But stealing is stealing.
 

Anonymous

I don't think food was kept in the pharmacy or ATM machine. Besides that, this is not even 24 hours after Katrina. It's not like they have gone without food for several days. These are just the typical New Orleans animals who are taking advantage of "the man" and feel entitled to take whatever they are "owed".
 

Anonymous

2:23 p.m.: Looters Grab Things From Grocery Store
A WDSU news crew just captured images of looters hauling items out of a New Orleans Winn-Dixie on Basin Street. People were seen using shopping carts and hand-held carts to haul off cleaning supplies, beer and other items out of the back of the store. -- WDSU.com Web Staff

Doesn't sound like perishables to me.
 

Anonymous

I suspect some of the thugs chose NOT to go to shelters because they planned to do some looting all along.
:twisted:
 
So what's happen to pershible goods/items in stores that are exposed to the elements (and likely to be looted)? Does it just go to waste?
From my experience in natural disasters, the meats, frozen items, dairy products, etc, only last 24 hours without refrigeration, so what I've always seen is gorcery stores donating all that to shelters in the first day so it can at least be eaten before it's thrown out.
 
Certainly -- where do I differ with you all on this?

Tim
I think that they got the impression that if somebody was in Circuit City, and got themselves a big screen, dvd, stereo system, etc that you were ok with it...they took it out of context, thats all.

I think that basic needs are ok...as long as people don't get carried away. I could see somebody getting all the milk out of a store, then trying to sell it.
 

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I love New Orleans and regularly go to Jazzfest and enjoy the awesome food and music. Aside from that, there are a lot of dirtbags who live in the city. That is why it is dangerous to visit a historic cemetary when alone or even in small groups and straying away from Bourbon St at night is not recommended. I once visited a restaurant where the staff quickly escorted me the short distance from the door to a waiting cab. I have also taken wrong turns while drivign around the city. Pretty scary.

Many areas of New Orleans are powder keg of disorder, looting and chaos. Unless there is a strong law enforcement (and National Guard presence), I worry about tonight and upcoming nights.

Bill hark
 
I suspect some of the thugs chose NOT to go to shelters because they planned to do some looting all along.
:twisted:
My thoughts exactly. I seriously wouldn't put it past some people to do this. I can just picture these jerks licking their chops as their neighbors evacuate there homes, realizing they won't be coming home for several days. Just terrible.

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J West

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WDSU just showed footage of upwards of 100 persons* looting a store, working in teams with a human conveyor belt.

Can you say martial law? :evil: :!: They are lucky the property owner isn't there with a 12 gauge.


* To prevent comments on race, all I'll say is watch the webcast footage.
 

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While it is pretty hard to make a case that stealing is superior to being prepared, personal survival is a consideration. It just gets into a slippery moral slope. “Trigger Effectâ€￾ is an excellent movie. The plot explores how tenuous is man's hold on civilization when survival becomes an issue? When the lights go out and stay out for several days…(from IMDB.COM)

As far as looting other than basic necessities This reminds me of The Simpson’s episode where Fat Tony hires Bart to work in his social club.

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Tony: Bart, um, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving
family?
Bart: No.
Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal
a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price
that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no!
Tony: Enjoy your gift. (transcript from www.snpp.com)
 

Rob_Davis

* To prevent comments on race, all I'll say is watch the webcast footage.
:lol:

There is no doubt, Anonymous is right. Staying around simply for the opportunity to loot was on the minds of many.

The heck with rescue helicopters. A few gunships would make a bold statement.
 
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