How many tornadoes were there actually during the Dodge City-outbreak?

Discussion in 'Introductory weather & chasing' started by ChristofferB, Apr 10, 2018.

Tags:
  1. ChristofferB

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    15
    I am not extremely interested in my tornado count but I do keep track of it, for fun. During the Dodge City tornado outbreak I was too busy photographing and enjoying the scenery that I completely lost track of the number of tornadoes we saw.

    Have you/anyone documented the amount of tornadoes during that day? Preferably with photos so I can compare to what we saw (reference to your blog post perhaps?). A reference to a complete video of the day would be helpful as well.
     
  2. Jeff Duda

    Jeff Duda Resident meteorological expert
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,690
    Likes Received:
    1,032
    NCDC's Storm Events Database (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/) lists 38 "events" on 24 May 2016 between midnight and midnight local time within the state of Kansas. Not all events represent separate tornadoes, however, as segments crossing county lines and CWA boundaries are usually counted as separate events. So you will need to go through the list and stitch together segments based on the narratives and start/end points to determine the true tornado count.

    Storm Events is regarded as the official record in the US, so whatever you come up with would be an official count.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. Jeff Duda

    Jeff Duda Resident meteorological expert
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,690
    Likes Received:
    1,032
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. GPhillips

    GPhillips EF3

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2004
    Messages:
    273
    Likes Received:
    15
    You can also go to the reports map that can be generated from the official archives at SPC. For example here. It allows you to zoom in and pan with counties overlaid. It might give you a better geographic picture and keeps the tornadoes that cross county lines as 1 event.
    http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/onlin...9999&showt=0&legend=1&showh=0&showw=0&cntys=1
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. ChristofferB

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    15
    Great! I will look into those sources! Thanks :)
     
  6. JamesCaruso

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    Messages:
    517
    Likes Received:
    140
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Jeff House

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    97
    I agree with the Davies regarding count. Usually I go by supercell cycles to measure the length of the show. If a cycle had more than one tornado, great! A couple cycles on the DDC day had multiple tornadoes, boosting the total tornado count.

    I loved DDC because it had both cycles and multiples, but it is rare. Between one cycle with 3 tornadoes, and 3 cycles with single tornadoes, I'll take the latter because the total show lasts longer. Assumes all else equal (visibility, classic sup, roads, etc.)
     

Share This Page